Message from @UNITE THE RIGHT

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2018-12-08 20:57:06 UTC  

nope

2018-12-08 20:57:10 UTC  

state capitalist is a contradiction

2018-12-08 20:57:15 UTC  

it WAS socialist

2018-12-08 20:57:19 UTC  

even if the USSR was in practice state capitalist or whatever they did try to be socialist

2018-12-08 20:57:25 UTC  

@UNITE THE RIGHT it was socialist

2018-12-08 20:57:25 UTC  

Marx himself said that under socialism commodity production must be abolished

2018-12-08 20:57:41 UTC  

realistically what system will abolish commmodity production

2018-12-08 20:57:45 UTC  

commodity*

2018-12-08 20:57:51 UTC  

However the economy was heavily controlled by the state

2018-12-08 20:57:55 UTC  

even in Cuba they have privately owned shit

2018-12-08 20:57:55 UTC  

Leftcom

2018-12-08 20:58:03 UTC  

and he said communism is when the commodity production is abolished

2018-12-08 20:58:05 UTC  

even in Cuba they have some free enterprise, eery country has it

2018-12-08 20:58:11 UTC  

Not exactly free

2018-12-08 20:58:14 UTC  

over controlled by the state

2018-12-08 20:58:17 UTC  

through regulation

2018-12-08 20:58:18 UTC  

price control

2018-12-08 20:58:21 UTC  

min wage

2018-12-08 20:58:21 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ actually you misinterpreted Marx

2018-12-08 20:58:21 UTC  

etc

2018-12-08 20:58:23 UTC  

like restaurants and shit are mostly free

2018-12-08 20:58:27 UTC  

He talked about communism

2018-12-08 20:58:33 UTC  

Let me get the actual quote

2018-12-08 20:58:34 UTC  

nah prob not

2018-12-08 20:58:41 UTC  

Misinformative jew

2018-12-08 20:58:45 UTC  

And it's a common fact

2018-12-08 20:58:49 UTC  

as unfree the market gets

2018-12-08 20:58:55 UTC  

the worse quality of life is

2018-12-08 20:59:01 UTC  

so if USSR got more socialist

2018-12-08 20:59:08 UTC  

it would be worse

2018-12-08 20:59:12 UTC  

lets be real you may support socialism or whatever but the USSR is not a good example

2018-12-08 20:59:21 UTC  

the kind of system they have over in Cuba and Venezuela is not a good one

2018-12-08 20:59:28 UTC  

Yeah socialist

2018-12-08 20:59:34 UTC  

So basically these countries right here

2018-12-08 20:59:36 UTC  

are the freest

2018-12-08 20:59:45 UTC  

so I'll regard them as capitalist but they are not true capitalist

2018-12-08 20:59:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521068423632125971/Screen_Shot_2018-12-08_at_20.28.24.png

2018-12-08 20:59:56 UTC  

These countries are the most unfree, these are socialist

2018-12-08 21:00:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521068459522654209/Screen_Shot_2018-12-08_at_20.29.05.png

2018-12-08 21:00:27 UTC  

i think that even when socialism is done well, it tends not to work

2018-12-08 21:00:37 UTC  

a lot of people try to dodge it with the wasnt real socialism argument