Capitalists are scum either way who want the power to outsource labor whenever they want

but state intervention creates monopoly

nah i actually disagree with outsourcing to third world countries

socialists are scum who want to starve everyone to look edgy

i think they did it badly and it wasnt managed correctly by both government and enterprise

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ that's not socialism

USSR still had commodity production.

oh boy

So it can't be socialist

your man Hakim disagrees with you there

what are you going to do now

🤔

I'm not leninist

if the USSR wasnt socialist what was it

Yeah just because it has commodity production doesn't mean it's not socialist

State capitalist

it was over regulated by the state

nope

state capitalist is a contradiction

it WAS socialist

even if the USSR was in practice state capitalist or whatever they did try to be socialist

@UNITE THE RIGHT it was socialist

Marx himself said that under socialism commodity production must be abolished

realistically what system will abolish commmodity production

commodity*

However the economy was heavily controlled by the state

even in Cuba they have privately owned shit

Leftcom

and he said communism is when the commodity production is abolished

even in Cuba they have some free enterprise, eery country has it

Not exactly free

over controlled by the state

through regulation

price control

min wage

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ actually you misinterpreted Marx

etc

like restaurants and shit are mostly free

He talked about communism

Let me get the actual quote

nah prob not