Message from @BeatleJuice
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Shitsources as well
see if its on milestones
so you refuse to believe that the holodomir was the result of failed soviet policy
you even said the USSR wasnt socialist or whatever
do you support them or not
has there ever been a famine like the Holodomor in the US?
This is the response of Anna Louise Strong, an American journalist famous for reporting on the Soviet Union, to a question about the supposed genocide.
QUESTION: "Is it true that during 1932-33 several million people were allowed to starve to death in the Ukraine and North Caucasus because they were politically hostile to the Soviets?"
ANSWER: "Not true. I visited several places in those regions during that period. There was a serious grain shortage in the 1932 harvest due chiefly to inefficiencies of the organizational period of the new large-scale mechanized farming among peasants unaccustomed to machines. To this was added sabotage by dispossessed kulaks, the leaving of the farms by 11 million workers who went to new industries, the cumulative effect of the world crisis in depressing the value of Soviet farm exports, and a drought in five basic grain regions in 1931.
The harvest of 1932 was better than that of 1931 but was not all gathered; on account of overoptimistic promises from rural districts, Moscow discovered the actual situation only in December when a considerable amount of grain was under snow."
Strong, Anna Louise. Searching Out the Soviets. New Republic: August 7, 1935, p. 356
Here is Strong again on the harvest of 1933.
"The conquest of bread was achieved that summer, a victory snatched from a great disaster. The 1933 harvest surpassed that of 1930, which till then had held the record. This time, the new record was made not by a burst of half-organized enthusiasm, but by growing efficiency and permanent organization … This nationwide cooperation beat the 1934 drought, securing a total crop for the USSR equal to the all-time high of 1933."
Strong, Anna Louise. The Stalin Era. New York: Mainstream, 1956, p. 44-45
so did the holodomor happen or not according to you?
It did
Obviously
But the perpetrator was obviously not Stalin
lemme guess it was the kulaks
As can be seen with the source above
lol
IIRC, Anna Louise Strong is hardly unbiased
Also, quit trying to strawman
what strawman is there cmon?
"lemme guess it was the kulaks"
do you think it was or wasnt?
You was about to set one up
why do you think it happened?
I obviously just said I did
Learn to read illiterate negro
so you think it was the kulaks
you is bout to set one up
look at your solecism... you call him illiterate you cant even fucking speak proper
anyway we're getting into ad hominems here and i havent even insulted anyone
Anna Louise Strong was a communist, I don't think she was unbiased
I'm not originally English.
neither am i
nor am I
lmfao
@t r u e how is that an argument when every source is biased
this doesnt even matter
it does.. its so important
being english or whatever doesnt matter
what does matter tho
Every source on Earth has bias
It's unavoidable human nature
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Fraud, Famine and Fascism by Douglas Tottle
This book is full of excellent historical and first hand accounts debunking the so called “holodomor” also the book talks about how the massive amount propaganda has been launched against the USSR.
http://www.garethjones.org/tottlefraud.pdf
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