Message from @BeatleJuice

Discord ID: 521082010580811786


2018-12-08 21:51:27 UTC  

yeah they didint have anything to farm. so they didint have famines.😏

2018-12-08 21:51:33 UTC  

No evidence and that's just speculation @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

2018-12-08 21:51:33 UTC  

;)

2018-12-08 21:51:46 UTC  

they subsidised areas that would've been loyal to them

2018-12-08 21:51:55 UTC  

famine didnt hit the cities

2018-12-08 21:51:56 UTC  

We aren't talking about China @UNITE THE RIGHT

2018-12-08 21:51:56 UTC  

Not speculation just interpreting it

2018-12-08 21:52:02 UTC  

in the ussr too

2018-12-08 21:52:04 UTC  

^

2018-12-08 21:52:07 UTC  

they took the food to the cities,

2018-12-08 21:52:16 UTC  

No source

2018-12-08 21:52:17 UTC  

lets not say that the cities produced more or whatever

2018-12-08 21:52:21 UTC  

lemme find it

2018-12-08 21:53:05 UTC  

Here's an actual source

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521081811519143939/Davies_Wheatcroft_ch.4_Famine-1.pdf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521081812143964162/unknown-227.png

2018-12-08 21:53:18 UTC  

anyway we got it documented

2018-12-08 21:53:27 UTC  

WIKIPEDIA AGAIN

2018-12-08 21:53:33 UTC  

anyway reliable history source you can see they rationed food for urban areas

2018-12-08 21:53:35 UTC  

click a link in that wiki link

2018-12-08 21:53:37 UTC  

and post it

2018-12-08 21:53:52 UTC  

please for the love of stalin... please click a reference

2018-12-08 21:54:08 UTC  

thats how that works

2018-12-08 21:54:13 UTC  

well the source you just gave me

2018-12-08 21:54:19 UTC  

even admits that it was carried out in derror

2018-12-08 21:54:22 UTC  

terror*

2018-12-08 21:54:50 UTC  

Here's another source

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521082250755047444/Soviet_peasants_resistance_and_adaptation.pdf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521082251254038529/unknown-79.png

2018-12-08 21:55:18 UTC  

it says that the cause of famine was due to kulak persecution and bad leadership

2018-12-08 21:55:45 UTC  

Yet you fail to analyze the source fully

2018-12-08 21:55:59 UTC  

Yeah it was terror

2018-12-08 21:56:05 UTC  

well, tell me where the analysis is

2018-12-08 21:56:21 UTC  

what am i supposed to get out of it that isnt to do with it being due to failed soviet policy

2018-12-08 21:56:43 UTC  

Not even reading the full thing

2018-12-08 21:56:46 UTC  

soviet policy failed, it isnt good to try and defend it, you even said yourself they didnt have true socialism or whatever

2018-12-08 21:56:48 UTC  

Idiot

2018-12-08 21:56:57 UTC  

ok so now we're getting into ad . hominems, come on point out what i missed

2018-12-08 21:57:06 UTC  

if its so obvious you can point it out

2018-12-08 21:57:24 UTC  

Denying the holodmor is like denying the holocaust

2018-12-08 21:57:30 UTC  

It isn't

2018-12-08 21:57:42 UTC  

It’s the Nazi way of saying “ the holocaust wasn’t caused by the state l

2018-12-08 21:57:43 UTC  

Holocaust was an industrial style mass murder