That's not an argument

Which the USSR was keen on doing

Yes it is

Collective agriculture is linked to lower rates of famine

Correlation is not causation

Keep in mind that Ukraine was not even entirely collectivized

this can easily be due to the statement I said above

collective agriculture certainly didnt lead to lower deaths in china

yeah they didint have anything to farm. so they didint have famines.😏

No evidence and that's just speculation @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

;)

they subsidised areas that would've been loyal to them

famine didnt hit the cities

We aren't talking about China @UNITE THE RIGHT

Not speculation just interpreting it

in the ussr too

^

they took the food to the cities,

No source

lets not say that the cities produced more or whatever

lemme find it

Here's an actual source

anyway we got it documented

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

WIKIPEDIA AGAIN

anyway reliable history source you can see they rationed food for urban areas

click a link in that wiki link

and post it

please for the love of stalin... please click a reference

thats how that works

well the source you just gave me

even admits that it was carried out in derror

terror*

Here's another source

it says that the cause of famine was due to kulak persecution and bad leadership

Yet you fail to analyze the source fully

Yeah it was terror

well, tell me where the analysis is

https://holodomor.ca/holodomor-basic-facts/

what am i supposed to get out of it that isnt to do with it being due to failed soviet policy

Not even reading the full thing