Message from @wahx

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2018-12-11 01:20:30 UTC  

Like imagine everyone stopped working

2018-12-11 01:20:42 UTC  

It is forced in a subtle way

2018-12-11 01:21:36 UTC  

Brb eating dinner

2018-12-11 01:28:17 UTC  

Sorry, just finished dinner.

2018-12-11 01:28:31 UTC  

Looking forwards to debating you when you're back.

2018-12-11 01:35:18 UTC  

I'm back, let's see what spooks you've got @GoldRush

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2018-12-11 01:44:43 UTC  

A Country without Nationalism might as well not be a Country at all.

2018-12-11 01:44:58 UTC  

In order for a people to be proud of their Country, Nationalism is a must.

2018-12-11 01:45:29 UTC  

Very true.

2018-12-11 01:46:08 UTC  

The concept of a nation is built with the framework concept of nationalism

2018-12-11 01:50:14 UTC  

@GoldRush very much agreed

2018-12-11 01:50:17 UTC  

Do you support the general ideology of Nazism?

2018-12-11 01:51:39 UTC  

Yall forgot about natural unemployment

2018-12-11 01:53:44 UTC  

@GoldRush As in Hitlerist national socialism?

2018-12-11 01:59:15 UTC  
2018-12-11 02:11:53 UTC  

Generally I don't

2018-12-11 02:12:02 UTC  

For various idealist reasons

2018-12-11 03:59:04 UTC  

nationalism doesnt = patriotism

2018-12-11 04:26:58 UTC  

what?

2018-12-11 04:27:46 UTC  

any patriotic people will develop a nationalist state if allowed to do so

2018-12-11 04:28:50 UTC  

some might, they aren't the same concept though

2018-12-11 04:29:18 UTC  

they go together 100% of the time

2018-12-11 04:29:34 UTC  

each results from the other

2018-12-11 04:29:39 UTC  

Not really, that's why they are different words

2018-12-11 04:30:08 UTC  

like obviously they're connected, I'm not arguing that

2018-12-11 04:30:08 UTC  

they are different words because one describes the mentality of a people and the otehr describes state policy

2018-12-11 04:30:17 UTC  

yeah, so, different things

2018-12-11 04:30:22 UTC  

they aren't connected 100% of the time

2018-12-11 04:30:23 UTC  

you don't know what you're talking about

2018-12-11 04:31:16 UTC  

oh?

2018-12-11 04:32:17 UTC  

Nationalism and Patriotism are compatible

2018-12-11 04:32:25 UTC  

I am just saying they are not synonyms, and take issue with the assertion that "any patriotic people will develop a nationalist state if allowed to do so" because I think that's silly. It's like saying "any socialist will develop a communist state if allowed to do so." Like... no. They're related concepts, that doesn't mean they always have to be with one another.

2018-12-11 04:32:35 UTC  

Yeah, definitely compatible. But different. That's what I'm saying.

2018-12-11 04:32:45 UTC  

Juche is a good example

2018-12-11 04:32:50 UTC  

socialists will develop communism if allowed to do so

2018-12-11 04:33:02 UTC  

it says that in the fucking theory

2018-12-11 04:33:13 UTC  

no, not all socialists want communism. I take issue with your reduction.

2018-12-11 04:33:18 UTC  

too bad

2018-12-11 04:33:25 UTC  

Regardless of your view on DPRK you cannot deny the nationalism/patriotism

2018-12-11 04:33:25 UTC  

the theory states that communism will likely follow socialism

2018-12-11 04:33:35 UTC  

not that every socialist wants communism