Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-01-05 22:31:04 UTC  

He just had that much money

2019-01-05 22:31:30 UTC  

But he also did plenty of good stuff with the money

2019-01-05 22:31:50 UTC  

Like, his son basically built our town

2019-01-05 22:32:00 UTC  

Refined oil prices fell from over 30 cents per gallon in 1869, to 10 cents in 1874, to 8 cents in 1885, and to 5.9 cents in 1897.

2019-01-05 22:32:03 UTC  

But he acquired it through very questionable means

2019-01-05 22:32:08 UTC  

There’s too many myths surrounding standard oil

2019-01-05 22:32:10 UTC  

That’s due to a huge increase in supply

2019-01-05 22:32:11 UTC  

as a monopoly

2019-01-05 22:32:24 UTC  

He wasn’t exploitative of consumers

2019-01-05 22:32:33 UTC  

Just of his competitors

2019-01-05 22:32:34 UTC  

The companies did questionable things

2019-01-05 22:32:36 UTC  

Natural monopolies , when they exist they’re efficient

2019-01-05 22:32:39 UTC  

You can't deny that

2019-01-05 22:32:45 UTC  

How?

2019-01-05 22:32:48 UTC  

he didn’t want to raise prices due to fears of competitor.

2019-01-05 22:32:52 UTC  

Competition

2019-01-05 22:33:04 UTC  

Monopoly = No competition

2019-01-05 22:33:16 UTC  

When a competitor arises, they can crush them

2019-01-05 22:33:19 UTC  

Because they wouldn’t be able to raise prices as competition would come in, wouldn’t be able to give back quality etc

2019-01-05 22:33:22 UTC  

Yes but they would be efficient

2019-01-05 22:33:27 UTC  

They also have a large money supply

2019-01-05 22:33:27 UTC  

Standard Oil was pretty efficient, but that was only because oil had yet to gain traction in the economy and so he had to lower prices to make it a viable fuel

2019-01-05 22:33:29 UTC  

Economies of scale

2019-01-05 22:33:47 UTC  

And he had to lower prices to stop competition

2019-01-05 22:33:51 UTC  

Which helped the consumer

2019-01-05 22:34:04 UTC  

Monopolies barely exist in a free market

2019-01-05 22:34:05 UTC  

He did get into price wars, in which he lowered prices to drive competitors out of business

2019-01-05 22:34:08 UTC  

And a bad monopoly does not exist

2019-01-05 22:34:13 UTC  

yes and he kept prices down

2019-01-05 22:34:15 UTC  

But he would raise prices once they were done

2019-01-05 22:34:26 UTC  

No evidence to support that

2019-01-05 22:34:33 UTC  

As soon as he would, competition would come in

2019-01-05 22:34:35 UTC  

There was an overall lowering trend as crude oil itself got cheaper

2019-01-05 22:34:38 UTC  

Not really

2019-01-05 22:34:49 UTC  

Standard oil did not control the oil extraction business anyways

2019-01-05 22:34:52 UTC  

All the aforementioned tactics basically dissuaded all but the most local competition

2019-01-05 22:34:55 UTC  

yes really

2019-01-05 22:35:07 UTC  

Yes he didn’t raise prices due to him fearing competition

2019-01-05 22:35:11 UTC  

They were more horizontally integrated than vertically integrated, yes

2019-01-05 22:35:12 UTC  

It would have been like that for ever

2019-01-05 22:35:17 UTC  

He often did raise prices