Message from @Leo (BillNyeLand)

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2019-01-05 22:29:15 UTC  

Oh yeah

2019-01-05 22:29:22 UTC  

But I support him bringing free trade from other countries

2019-01-05 22:29:23 UTC  

I did research on Rockefeller once

2019-01-05 22:29:29 UTC  

as in other countries lowered tarrifs

2019-01-05 22:29:33 UTC  

Standard oil is also a myth

2019-01-05 22:29:34 UTC  

He did all sorts of questionable things to secure his monopoly

2019-01-05 22:29:36 UTC  

That’s a HUGE myth

2019-01-05 22:29:39 UTC  

Yep

2019-01-05 22:29:56 UTC  

The companies also kept on lobbying to keep monopolies legal

2019-01-05 22:29:59 UTC  

He’s get his monopoly to boycott any railroad that served his competitors, since losing his business would destroy the railroad

2019-01-05 22:30:26 UTC  

He’d buy all of the pipeline networks surrounding competitors’ oil refineries so they couldn’t ship in new oil

2019-01-05 22:31:00 UTC  

He’d even buy every single piece of land around a competitor’s refinery so they couldn’t build their own pipelines out

2019-01-05 22:31:04 UTC  

He just had that much money

2019-01-05 22:31:30 UTC  

But he also did plenty of good stuff with the money

2019-01-05 22:31:50 UTC  

Like, his son basically built our town

2019-01-05 22:32:00 UTC  

Refined oil prices fell from over 30 cents per gallon in 1869, to 10 cents in 1874, to 8 cents in 1885, and to 5.9 cents in 1897.

2019-01-05 22:32:03 UTC  

But he acquired it through very questionable means

2019-01-05 22:32:08 UTC  

There’s too many myths surrounding standard oil

2019-01-05 22:32:10 UTC  

That’s due to a huge increase in supply

2019-01-05 22:32:11 UTC  

as a monopoly

2019-01-05 22:32:24 UTC  

He wasn’t exploitative of consumers

2019-01-05 22:32:33 UTC  

Just of his competitors

2019-01-05 22:32:34 UTC  

The companies did questionable things

2019-01-05 22:32:36 UTC  

Natural monopolies , when they exist they’re efficient

2019-01-05 22:32:39 UTC  

You can't deny that

2019-01-05 22:32:45 UTC  

How?

2019-01-05 22:32:48 UTC  

he didn’t want to raise prices due to fears of competitor.

2019-01-05 22:32:52 UTC  

Competition

2019-01-05 22:33:04 UTC  

Monopoly = No competition

2019-01-05 22:33:16 UTC  

When a competitor arises, they can crush them

2019-01-05 22:33:19 UTC  

Because they wouldn’t be able to raise prices as competition would come in, wouldn’t be able to give back quality etc

2019-01-05 22:33:22 UTC  

Yes but they would be efficient

2019-01-05 22:33:27 UTC  

They also have a large money supply

2019-01-05 22:33:27 UTC  

Standard Oil was pretty efficient, but that was only because oil had yet to gain traction in the economy and so he had to lower prices to make it a viable fuel

2019-01-05 22:33:29 UTC  

Economies of scale

2019-01-05 22:33:47 UTC  

And he had to lower prices to stop competition

2019-01-05 22:33:51 UTC  

Which helped the consumer

2019-01-05 22:34:04 UTC  

Monopolies barely exist in a free market

2019-01-05 22:34:05 UTC  

He did get into price wars, in which he lowered prices to drive competitors out of business

2019-01-05 22:34:08 UTC  

And a bad monopoly does not exist

2019-01-05 22:34:13 UTC  

yes and he kept prices down