Most white peoples are born into better positions than most non-whites, and because of this it's considered a privilege to be born white. There is nothing wrong with being white, if anything you should be thankful that. You (probably) know your father and aren't born in a bad neighborhood with a bad school. Of course everyone is free and has the same rights, (most) white people are just born into a situation where they are privileged to not have the same obstacles as some minorities

It is not privilege. It is station earned by our parents so they could give it to us.

If you put black men on top through some artificial means they will still not do what we do

First off, no one wants to put black men on top. That doesn’t make any sense.

Second, you do have to admit that getting things from your parents like good school districts, a well-funded upbringing, a good college/education, and lack of discrimination has to help you regardless of how good or bad, skilled or unskilled of a person you are on your own.

So it would be good if *everybody* got to share in the same beneficial initial conditions. Not only would that allow people to succeed on their own merits rather than the wealth of their parents, but it’s profitable to society in the long run as you get a generation of well-educated, upwardly mobile citizens.

Hmm

You are right that putting black men on top does not make any sense, but it is the openly stated goal of affirmative action and the like to do just that.

That’s not the goal; the goal is to close the gap, not increase gaps by any means.

Obviously affirmative action that benefits a more powerful group would make no sense.

You must reevaluate the intent of pro-diversity theorists and actors

I thought it was the effects that mattered more than intent

The effects are that it helps minorités break the cycle of poverty and achieve success on their own.

*minorities lol

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ToroToday at 16:36
Most white peoples are born into better positions than most non-whites, and because of this it's considered a privilege to be born white. There is nothing wrong with being white, if anything you should be thankful that. You (probably) know your father and aren't born in a bad neighborhood with a bad school. Of course everyone is free and has the same rights, (most) white people are just born into a situation where they are privileged to not have the same obstacles as some minorities"

Not really

Instead of confusing the matter with rhetorical argument like this, go look up public statements of professors and politicians on their desire to destroy white civilization, or "whiteness" as they sometimes refer to it.

in America the highest earning groups are Asians

And I of course disagree with putting blacks on top of whites as much as I do whites on top of blacks. But I think both of those are a far cry from *moderate* modern liberalism.

So if anything it's an asian privilege

Especially things like racist affirmative action

They weren’t really enslaved for hundreds of years though

Which sort of sets them apart from African Americans

Doesn't matter

something happening 200 years ago means nothing

Sort of does

No it does not

Through the intergenerational effects we already mentioned

Nope

there is no viable reason

If your parents are poor, you automatically face additional hardships to success

for something that happened 200 years ago

Not poor due to slavery

It's more of choices

Plus blacks were heavily discriminated against in America until as recent as the 1960s

Agree ^^

Which is 50 years

Yes

Barely two generations

No it's 60 years

It’s almost 55 years since the civil rights act of 1964