Message from @hcaez

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2019-01-12 23:51:12 UTC  

but before fedex came, the usps had no reason to improve

2019-01-12 23:51:26 UTC  

A stamp is like 50 cents

2019-01-12 23:51:29 UTC  

it took longer to ship packages

2019-01-12 23:51:31 UTC  

But that’s only if you want to send mail

2019-01-12 23:51:38 UTC  

Receiving mail is free

2019-01-12 23:52:05 UTC  

but because there's now competition, we have stuff like 2 day shipping and overnight

2019-01-12 23:52:15 UTC  

Also how would a company run it

2019-01-12 23:52:31 UTC  

fedex

2019-01-12 23:52:33 UTC  

Postal service loses money

2019-01-12 23:52:42 UTC  

It’s not profitable

2019-01-12 23:52:44 UTC  

UPS

2019-01-12 23:52:48 UTC  

amazon has sort of their own

2019-01-12 23:53:12 UTC  

the USPS isn't profitable, but other types are

2019-01-12 23:55:42 UTC  

Luz what’s wrong with postal service?

2019-01-12 23:55:51 UTC  

They do a good job generally speaking

2019-01-12 23:56:10 UTC  

It’s a completely free service provided by the gov and it functions well

2019-01-12 23:56:29 UTC  

well, you pay them indirectly via taxes

2019-01-12 23:56:38 UTC  

and directly through stamps and other costs

2019-01-12 23:57:08 UTC  

but when the USPS was a monopoly, they had no reason to offer better service because they had no competitor

2019-01-12 23:57:52 UTC  

but when other shipping companies came about like fedex who started to offer very fast delivery for not that much more, they needed to change and do the same

2019-01-12 23:58:20 UTC  

if there was only the usps, I don't think companies like amazon could be offering 2 day delivery for prime members as they do now

2019-01-12 23:58:39 UTC  

Ah

2019-01-12 23:58:49 UTC  

well they probably would've eventually, but it would've taken longer

2019-01-12 23:58:55 UTC  

and amazon would have to lobby for changes

2019-01-13 00:08:19 UTC  

@chad you were pro Bernie and I’m 90% sure you told me you’re a socialist

2019-01-13 00:08:24 UTC  

I could’ve remembered wrong though

2019-01-13 00:09:49 UTC  

Ya I used to be a democratic socialist

2019-01-13 00:09:57 UTC  

I still kinda am just not as much anymore

2019-01-13 00:10:17 UTC  

You can be a democratic socialist and also pro capitalism, there is still capitalism in countries like Norway

2019-01-13 00:16:51 UTC  

oh

2019-01-13 00:16:56 UTC  

I must’ve misunderstood

2019-01-13 00:16:57 UTC  

My bad

2019-01-13 01:27:53 UTC  

It’s ok

2019-01-13 02:14:08 UTC  

This free school and healthcare thing we have here in Norway cost us too much money, i sense reforms in the future.

2019-01-13 04:32:45 UTC  

@chad "All socialism isn’t bad though, like I said before government run military/mail service is good" Socialism is inherently morally and factually bad. You do not steal from people and strip people from their rights just because you think it is better for all. Leave the people to decide for themselves what they wan't to do with their money and how they want to make it(unless it violates the NAP). That is the nature of socialism

2019-01-13 04:33:20 UTC  

@ventuz exactly

2019-01-13 04:33:21 UTC  

Also free education IS TERRIBLE.
Average graduation rate in such "free schools" (even though nothing is free, its payed by the taxes) are extremely low

2019-01-13 04:33:35 UTC  

Also exactly

2019-01-13 04:35:02 UTC  

To put it simply: You give people no cost as the cost for the benefit, they are going to abuse it (with what you see with free education, people dropping out simply for something as ridicilous as failing a test, and the reason they do not do such things in payed education is that COST loss situation)

2019-01-13 04:35:27 UTC  

abuse it as for no rationing, no rational thinking as for the cost loss situation

2019-01-13 04:37:04 UTC  

That’s why we pay for secondary education in America, cause secondary education in the US is some of the best, not only that but drop out rates in the most expensive ones have been decreasing since, forever. It’s because you shouldn’t go to these schools unless you genuinely want to, and those who genuinely want to aren’t going to drop out for no reason, and are going to want to pay for the best