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2018-12-27 22:53:39 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #republican-glory]  

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2018-12-28 00:50:08 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Depends what do you mean by wrong @Will

2018-12-28 00:50:22 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

does it hurt the kids for two men to adopt a child, yes

2018-12-28 00:50:39 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

is it morally wrong for someone to be attracted towards the person with the same sex, no

2018-12-28 00:50:58 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

But as I've said i have some concerns

2018-12-28 00:51:07 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #republican-glory]  

BUT TRUMP IS THE RACIST

2018-12-28 00:51:13 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #republican-glory]  

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2018-12-28 16:58:19 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

thats not how it works. god does not do everything for you

2018-12-28 16:58:34 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

even though I'm not that of a traditional Christian i understand that

2018-12-28 17:04:49 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

A lot of people argue that it is a sin transfered through out generations

2018-12-28 17:05:27 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

In short and simple, your grandparents did something fucked up, thus your grandkids will suffer

2018-12-28 17:05:37 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

"suffer" isn't the right word but you get the memo

2018-12-28 17:07:30 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

What are your thoughts on anarcho capitalism

2018-12-28 17:08:08 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

gov abolished and free market runs everything

2018-12-28 17:08:15 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

competition

2018-12-28 17:08:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

not really since theres no gov

2018-12-28 17:09:10 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

for example different institutions would propose rights

2018-12-28 17:09:25 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and those rights would be "enfourced" by private courts

2018-12-28 17:10:51 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Why do you think it would fail? Are you proposing it is utopian?

2018-12-28 17:11:26 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Fair enough

2018-12-28 17:12:21 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Trhe whole premise of it is for it to not be as organized as the gov so it cannot have a monopoly on force like the gov has.

2018-12-28 17:13:41 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes?

2018-12-28 17:15:56 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

warfare is expensive. It produces rather unpredictabe results as you can imagine. So from the standpoint of both firms it makes much more sense to agree on a private court, that will settle disputes between them

2018-12-28 17:17:04 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes but the cost of it would outweigh the benefit

2018-12-28 17:17:27 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and even their private rights enforcment agencies would agree on that

2018-12-28 17:19:47 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

smaller governments? Not really since competition woudl stop that from happening since government create monopolies, monopolies are impossible in free markets.

2018-12-28 17:21:40 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

There would be different kind of militias

2018-12-28 17:21:44 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and yes

2018-12-28 17:22:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

different firms would try to top over each other with better protection

2018-12-28 17:22:10 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

gov has no incentives

2018-12-28 17:22:44 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

if it monopolizes, but as ive stated monopolies are impossible in free markets. Govs create monopolies so that would not happen

2018-12-28 17:22:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

a militia from a single firm?

2018-12-28 17:24:06 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

what do you mean by that

2018-12-28 17:26:39 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

there would be different kinds of militias from different kinds of firms. They could get bigger but it all comes down to the consumers choice. There will be those firms who would go bankrupt, but if there is competition there would not be just a single militia

2018-12-28 17:26:45 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

for exmaple

2018-12-28 17:27:00 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

lets say that there are two countries, and one is anarcho capitalist

2018-12-28 17:27:37 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

i think i understand what youre saying?

2018-12-28 17:28:00 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Youre not saying they would monopolise it youre saying that they could just defend the city?

2018-12-28 17:28:01 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes

2018-12-28 17:28:34 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

or are you saying that they could go tyrannical?

2018-12-28 17:28:45 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and just get ahold of the city and no one could defend

2018-12-28 17:28:50 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

That's already the government

2018-12-28 17:28:52 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

a gov can do that

2018-12-28 17:28:58 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

a gov has the monopoly on force

2018-12-28 17:29:17 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and since there is no competition and no private militias rising for competition no one could stop them

2018-12-28 17:29:27 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

why would it be beneficial for private firms

2018-12-28 17:29:35 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

you said that like 10 times

2018-12-28 17:29:40 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes

2018-12-28 17:29:47 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

thats why i want to abolish the gov

2018-12-28 17:29:54 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

i sounded like a communist there wtf

2018-12-28 17:30:11 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes and those private armies would be owned by firms

2018-12-28 17:30:16 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

who have high incentives to innovate

2018-12-28 17:30:26 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes

2018-12-28 17:30:45 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

businesses in general if there is competition and profits have huge incentives to innovate and keep their cost down

2018-12-28 17:30:49 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

what

2018-12-28 17:31:07 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes

2018-12-28 17:32:25 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

how would we have more control of the gov if there is no gov

2018-12-28 17:32:26 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

lol

2018-12-28 17:33:53 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

private firms that have a hold of private militias?

2018-12-28 17:34:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

same thing that stops them now

2018-12-28 17:34:33 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

sid

2018-12-28 17:34:58 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

why do you have the role american if you said youre from the uk like 10 mins ago

2018-12-28 17:35:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

what

2018-12-28 17:35:06 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

yes

2018-12-28 17:35:11 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

were talking about anarcho capitalism here?

2018-12-28 17:36:38 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

competition

2018-12-28 17:36:44 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and no one would buy t hem

2018-12-28 17:36:52 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

other companies would take advantage of the situation

2018-12-28 17:36:55 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and sell at lower prices

2018-12-28 17:37:04 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and boom demand

2018-12-28 17:39:44 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

no that would be a monopoly what youre talking about. And monopolies are impossible in free markets as ive stated. And they wouldn't. That argument could be appliked to the gov

2018-12-28 17:39:51 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

The gov can foprcibly take property from peopel

2018-12-28 17:39:52 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

right now

2018-12-28 17:39:58 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

they already do

2018-12-28 17:40:00 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

use force

2018-12-28 17:40:07 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

taxation

2018-12-28 17:43:58 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

What? IF who wasnt big enough? And yes the could go tyrannical but what would be the point of that first of all. And the second thing, as i've stated private firms, different private firms would go against these people. If you're stating that it is impossible for, lets say a high number of firms who have a high number of people working for them as militias, how is it possible for a normal military? It is more of less the same thing however those firms have high incentives to innovate and keepo the costs low since competition, the only difference is that since competition would exist, a single firm would not get as organized as the gov

2018-12-28 17:44:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and monopolise force

2018-12-28 17:44:07 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

thats the whole point of anarcho capitalism

2018-12-28 17:44:44 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

they wouldnt get tyrannical since they wouldnt be a monopoly

2018-12-28 17:45:33 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and yeah private police exists but theyre never gonna get as popular

2018-12-28 17:46:06 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

for now

2018-12-28 17:46:09 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

since theres gov

2018-12-28 17:47:46 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Or how about a scenario where a large army takes over an area and government military isn't able to combat it

2018-12-28 17:48:16 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

why

2018-12-28 17:48:26 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

why would they be rare and those wouldnt

2018-12-28 17:49:21 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

how

2018-12-28 17:49:55 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

since they have more incentives

2018-12-28 17:50:08 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

profits, competition, innovation etc

2018-12-28 17:50:21 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

no how are they weaker

2018-12-28 17:50:25 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

those have more incentives

2018-12-28 17:50:29 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

and

2018-12-28 17:50:33 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

they could not get tyrannical

2018-12-28 17:50:42 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

since they wouldnt ever be able to form a monopoly

2018-12-28 17:50:51 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

how are they weaker

2018-12-28 17:51:34 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

how do they not have as many recourses? how does the gov have

2018-12-28 17:53:36 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

What? Yes? And that is my point. They have a monopoly on basically everything. What stops them from going tyrannical. So to answer your other "question" about them nto being as effective. Those companies would be able to get to these resources, since nothing would stop them from getting them since they have incentives since competition. So they would be as effective as the government military

2018-12-28 17:54:10 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

even more

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