you pay for stamps and to send packages

That’s cheap

yeah, fedex's rates aren't that high either

but before fedex came, the usps had no reason to improve

A stamp is like 50 cents

it took longer to ship packages

But that’s only if you want to send mail

Receiving mail is free

but because there's now competition, we have stuff like 2 day shipping and overnight

Also how would a company run it

fedex

Postal service loses money

It’s not profitable

UPS

amazon has sort of their own

the USPS isn't profitable, but other types are

Luz what’s wrong with postal service?

They do a good job generally speaking

It’s a completely free service provided by the gov and it functions well

well, you pay them indirectly via taxes

and directly through stamps and other costs

but when the USPS was a monopoly, they had no reason to offer better service because they had no competitor

but when other shipping companies came about like fedex who started to offer very fast delivery for not that much more, they needed to change and do the same

if there was only the usps, I don't think companies like amazon could be offering 2 day delivery for prime members as they do now

Ah

well they probably would've eventually, but it would've taken longer

and amazon would have to lobby for changes

@chad you were pro Bernie and I’m 90% sure you told me you’re a socialist

I could’ve remembered wrong though

Ya I used to be a democratic socialist

I still kinda am just not as much anymore

You can be a democratic socialist and also pro capitalism, there is still capitalism in countries like Norway

oh

I must’ve misunderstood

My bad

It’s ok

This free school and healthcare thing we have here in Norway cost us too much money, i sense reforms in the future.

@chad "All socialism isn’t bad though, like I said before government run military/mail service is good" Socialism is inherently morally and factually bad. You do not steal from people and strip people from their rights just because you think it is better for all. Leave the people to decide for themselves what they wan't to do with their money and how they want to make it(unless it violates the NAP). That is the nature of socialism

@ventuz exactly

Also free education IS TERRIBLE.
Average graduation rate in such "free schools" (even though nothing is free, its payed by the taxes) are extremely low

Also exactly