Message from @Toro

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2019-01-15 19:37:09 UTC  

I think it's actually good that life has no set purpose

2019-01-15 19:37:21 UTC  

if life did have a purpose then you wouldn't truly have free will

2019-01-15 19:37:25 UTC  

That is the post-nihilist perspective

2019-01-15 19:37:31 UTC  

Indeed

2019-01-15 19:37:32 UTC  

Life's purpose would vary upon the individual imo

2019-01-15 19:37:41 UTC  

but it is very difficult to make purpose for oneself

2019-01-15 19:38:08 UTC  

Yeah, and many aren't satisfied with that

2019-01-15 19:38:46 UTC  

no I think dissatisfaction is the result of failure in that case

2019-01-15 19:39:26 UTC  

when people go through nihilism and don't have what it takes they become destructive or absurdist

2019-01-15 19:40:16 UTC  

Reality is subject and based off of perception right

2019-01-15 19:40:22 UTC  

well we do have he 'objective reality'

2019-01-15 19:40:38 UTC  

but everyone's perception would alter the way they viewed the world

2019-01-15 19:40:53 UTC  

in that case purpose would be up to the individual

2019-01-15 19:41:16 UTC  

No you're doing it wrong if you think subjective reality is more important than objective reality

2019-01-15 19:41:23 UTC  

I don't think it is

2019-01-15 19:41:41 UTC  

objective reality is obviously more important

2019-01-15 19:42:06 UTC  

but if everyone views the world differently naturally their purpose would be varied

2019-01-15 19:42:20 UTC  

yes

2019-01-15 19:42:58 UTC  

in this way objective reality is where true purpose lies, and individuals' subjective reality is a means to an end

2019-01-15 19:43:08 UTC  

also this is based off of my own speculation I haven't studies philosophy or anything so I might make a lot of mistakes

2019-01-15 19:44:07 UTC  

I think that choosing one's own meaning is kinda dissatisfying even when you are 'successful' , but the real problems is that if we select a meaning in life like we choose something small at an all-you-can-eat or buffet, then the very fact that we are choosing reduces what could have been a larger purpose to something that is much smaller

2019-01-15 19:45:09 UTC  

It's like "can you be satisfied with one meal, even if its minuscule"

2019-01-15 19:45:24 UTC  

Again I think you are confusing failure for success when it comes to making your own purpose

2019-01-15 19:45:44 UTC  

the kind of mental gymnastics it requires is hard to obtain

2019-01-15 19:45:57 UTC  

well lookat me for example

2019-01-15 19:46:13 UTC  

I would like a science or tech based job

2019-01-15 19:46:26 UTC  

and you get it, then?

2019-01-15 19:46:29 UTC  

I would get the most meaning if I could affect the science or tech based world

2019-01-15 19:46:37 UTC  

but someone who would like an art based job

2019-01-15 19:46:53 UTC  

Might not enjoy the STEM job as much as I would

2019-01-15 19:47:19 UTC  

if you don't accept a higher authority from outside yourself, you have to make god in your own psyche and then live under him

2019-01-15 19:47:26 UTC  

it is difficult to do

2019-01-15 19:47:41 UTC  

That's what im pointing at

2019-01-15 19:47:57 UTC  

I think there's a difference between accepting someone as authority and accepting authority in general

2019-01-15 19:48:02 UTC  

If you do it right though it is more satisfying than the alternatives

2019-01-15 19:48:14 UTC  

like If I know someone has more power than me and the logical choice would be the obey/please them

2019-01-15 19:48:33 UTC  

Vs if I respect them and do recognize them as my superior

2019-01-15 19:48:49 UTC  

It is the difference between logic and faith there, yeah?

2019-01-15 19:48:54 UTC  

in a way

2019-01-15 19:49:32 UTC  

a variant of the first one could be someone who doesn't like being controlled so blindly disobeys authority for the sake of it

2019-01-15 19:49:32 UTC  

you obey men for pragmatic reasons but you obey a god because you have faith in him