Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-01-16 11:45:22 UTC  

And wealth will leave the country due to tax avoidance schemes

2019-01-16 11:45:26 UTC  

no point of it then

2019-01-16 11:47:21 UTC  
2019-01-16 12:06:02 UTC  

That’s like asking (for something more trump-y) why we should build a wall if it doesn’t stop all illegal immigration

2019-01-16 12:06:37 UTC  

It doesn’t accomplish everything, but it doesn’t set out to accomplish everything, and it does accomplish a good amount (depending on your priorities)

2019-01-16 12:07:03 UTC  

It’ll collect more revenue from people who have more money than they could reasonably derive true benefit from

2019-01-16 12:29:08 UTC  

A wall stops 95% of border crossings

2019-01-16 12:29:17 UTC  

However an income tax like that has an effective rate of 35%

2019-01-16 12:29:32 UTC  

In other words you don’t change the amount of tax coming in

2019-01-16 12:29:36 UTC  

It’s just avoided

2019-01-16 12:29:40 UTC  

If anything you might deter investment

2019-01-16 12:29:57 UTC  

And doing these tax hikes will be accompanied with increased spending which will shift the burden into the middle class

2019-01-16 14:27:23 UTC  

I dunno why the democrats are against a 5.7B wall that actually helps America but are okay with 150B to Iran hoping that they don’t continue to try and develop WMD’s

2019-01-16 15:29:09 UTC  

It would increase revenue though

2019-01-16 15:31:42 UTC  

And how does spending the tax receipts from the highest income earners shift the burden to the middle class

2019-01-16 15:43:13 UTC  

Because you’re not getting the actual tax from 70%

2019-01-16 15:43:17 UTC  

You’d be getting 35% odd

2019-01-16 15:43:30 UTC  

So the shift of the spending would go down towards the middle class more

2019-01-16 15:43:39 UTC  

since the top don’t pay anymore

2019-01-16 15:43:47 UTC  

And raising taxes after a certain point decreases revenue

2019-01-16 15:43:49 UTC  

Laffer curve

2019-01-16 15:55:44 UTC  

Yes; the most accepted point for that critical point is 70%

2019-01-16 15:56:15 UTC  

And can you explain more on how the spending would “go down” toward the middle class?

2019-01-16 18:46:49 UTC  

No it's not

2019-01-16 18:46:55 UTC  

there is no "most accepted"

2019-01-16 18:47:00 UTC  

we don't know what the tax rate is

2019-01-16 18:47:46 UTC  

@Leo (BillNyeLand) Because since you increased spending on the hopes of the tax revenue rising due to the 70% tax rate. However the actual tax paid was around 35%. This is not even close to what was predicted, thus the cost goes down the middle class.

2019-01-16 19:04:57 UTC  

Remove tax abatements

2019-01-16 19:05:42 UTC  

But no one expects an *effective* tax rate of 70%

2019-01-16 19:06:14 UTC  

If they wanted an effective rate of 70%, they would set an effective rate of 70%. But they only want a *marginal* rate of 70%.

2019-01-16 19:06:39 UTC  

And government should live within its long-term means anyways, but that’s unrelated to the current or proposed tax rate.

2019-01-16 19:06:42 UTC  

They want an effective tax rate

2019-01-16 19:06:45 UTC  

thats the whole point

2019-01-16 19:06:49 UTC  

mostlikely would try to close loopholes

2019-01-16 19:06:53 UTC  

Which will result in a crash

2019-01-16 19:07:00 UTC  

They can close loopholes

2019-01-16 19:07:14 UTC  

yes and that increases the tax rate closer to 70%

2019-01-16 19:07:18 UTC  

Which is a crash

2019-01-16 19:07:22 UTC  

And AOC herself said she knew 70% marginal wasn’t 70% effective

2019-01-16 19:07:38 UTC  

And intended the former and not the latter

2019-01-16 19:07:50 UTC  

where