Message from @gmod

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2019-01-28 01:56:14 UTC  

do they believe in that person?

2019-01-28 01:56:17 UTC  

I mean, I do

2019-01-28 01:56:18 UTC  

lol

2019-01-28 01:56:21 UTC  

His liberal cousin

2019-01-28 01:56:25 UTC  

hahahaha

2019-01-28 01:57:18 UTC  

The backstory is that the wealthy in America appear to be both lazy and hard-working

2019-01-28 01:57:35 UTC  

But they are taxed the same

2019-01-28 01:58:59 UTC  

So what if taxes were at least partially based on wage and hours worked instead of total income, so a guy making $200k by working 50 hours a week is less taxed than a guy who makes the $200k via 2 hours of stock trading and then spends the rest of the week at his summer home in Rhode Island?

2019-01-28 01:59:30 UTC  

It's a great concept, how does that work in execution? how would you hold them accountable?

2019-01-28 02:03:31 UTC  

The employer gives the hours you work (which most probably collect already), and dividing your income by the hours gives your effective wage, and so you could be taxed based on the amount you'd earn if you did work 40 hours a week or something similar

2019-01-28 02:04:11 UTC  

ok so it relies on the employer to be honest

2019-01-28 02:04:27 UTC  

I assume in a CEO position the board of trustees or the CFO would collect hours for the CEO

2019-01-28 02:05:01 UTC  

imma go ahead and say that within a company there's a good chance they would want to inflate their hours across the board, and there's no incentive to be honest because there's no way you could catch someone in this kind of lie

2019-01-28 02:05:12 UTC  

other than...spying on them for at least a week straight which takes massive resources

2019-01-28 02:05:29 UTC  

and don't get me wrong, I really really like the concept of taxation being relative to effort, I'm just not convinced this is feasible

2019-01-28 03:45:01 UTC  

The idea is that many employers provide employees with records of how many hours they worked, so any employee could notice their tax hours are different from their regular hours and dispute it;

2019-01-28 03:45:38 UTC  

in addition, the tax is on the employee and not the employer, so the business doesn’t have a string incentive to lie

2019-01-28 03:45:48 UTC  

But of course there are pros and cons

2019-01-28 03:54:50 UTC  

I think waitresses are being illegally paid below minimum wage

2019-01-28 03:55:20 UTC  

We don’t treat our barbers the same way and we tip them

2019-01-28 03:56:11 UTC  

Kinda weird how we tip the pizza delivery guy and the waitress, but not really anyone else tbh

2019-01-28 03:56:22 UTC  

Lol true

2019-01-28 03:56:31 UTC  

Like that’s what’s broken

2019-01-28 03:56:31 UTC  

oh

2019-01-28 03:56:35 UTC  

and the taxi driver

2019-01-28 03:56:35 UTC  

Not the minimum wage

2019-01-28 03:56:39 UTC  

yeah

2019-01-28 03:56:51 UTC  

Fucking libtards

2019-01-28 03:56:58 UTC  

eh, society just created that

2019-01-28 03:57:00 UTC  

somehow

2019-01-28 03:57:03 UTC  

Don't ask me how

2019-01-28 03:57:04 UTC  

lol

2019-01-28 04:13:12 UTC  

I wish I could just start a protest for it

2019-01-28 04:13:34 UTC  

Don’t increase minimum wage
Just pay your employees appropriately

2019-01-28 04:25:59 UTC  

Tipped workers are actually not subject to the minimum wage

2019-01-28 04:26:34 UTC  

I think the minimum hourly pay for waiters is $2.50 in most places

2019-01-28 05:48:13 UTC  

Yea

2019-01-28 05:48:18 UTC  

It’s should be minimum wage

2019-01-28 05:49:06 UTC  

To argue “it’s because they get a tip” is ignorance trying to argue for illegal and immoral practices

2019-01-28 05:49:35 UTC  

Pay them their minimum wage and then people can actually pay their bills and not ask for a minimum wage increase

2019-01-28 05:50:15 UTC  

Restaurants believe it’s cost affective until you realize that the turn over rate for waitresses is through the roof