Message from @Leo (BillNyeLand)

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2019-01-30 01:35:51 UTC  

On the health of the economy, that is

2019-01-30 01:36:34 UTC  

yeah that's what most studies I've found say

2019-01-30 01:36:52 UTC  

it's an imperfect way to help poor people for sure

2019-01-30 01:36:57 UTC  

but it is *a* way

2019-01-30 01:37:37 UTC  

if it were tied to inflation we might have more cause to deal with inflation quickly

2019-01-30 02:00:51 UTC  

Let’s do this in an accounting perspective, since I am qualified to be an accountant.
Total Revenue - Cost of Goods Sold = Gross Profit.
If revenues equal $500,000 per year
and costs of goods sold is $400,000
Then the gross profits are $100,000 in a year.
Let’s assume this made up company has only 10 employees making the wages of $7.25 per hour which = $150,800 per year out of the costs of goods sold which means the rest of the costs would be $249,200. This is a realistic scenario. However, if the minimum wages increase to $15 per hour as proposed and the owner gladly keeps his employees he would be then paying $312,000 per year for all 10 employees and increasing his costs to $561,200 which would put his company at a gross loss of -$61,200 per year. Therefore any claim that “min wage increases have generally little effect” on a small company is a blatant lie made by ignorant people. There is absolutely Zero studies that can disprove simple math and finances. Companies need to adjust to these wage increases to survive by increasing prices or paying off workers (at the very least reduce overhead). It’s common sense.

2019-01-30 02:00:58 UTC  
2019-01-30 02:20:33 UTC  

Then it sounds like it’s a company that can’t afford to pay its employees a living wage and shouldn’t exist

2019-01-30 02:22:17 UTC  

On a separate note I’d support legislation that lowers taxes when the ratio of least payed to most payed is is close to 1

2019-01-30 02:23:46 UTC  

Also you’re thinking of a micro situation and applying it to macro situation

2019-01-30 02:30:29 UTC  

That’s actually a high end situation since most businesses don’t make a profit of $100,000 a year

2019-01-30 02:31:20 UTC  

But saying a once successful company shouldn’t exist because they got hit with an unexpected expenditure is pretty harsh especially coming from a liberal.

2019-01-30 02:33:21 UTC  

That’s especially not something any entrepreneur is going to want to hear. Just that statement alone cost you about 25 million votes.

2019-01-30 02:55:39 UTC  

Not an unexpected expenditure, the requirement to pay a living wage

2019-01-30 02:55:51 UTC  

That’s ok I’m not running for public office

2019-01-30 02:56:06 UTC  

Well yeah most small business fail, of course most don’t get to 100,000

2019-01-30 02:56:21 UTC  

But I didn’t say it was a high end situation, I said it was a micro situation

2019-01-30 03:11:48 UTC  

Define micro situation

2019-01-30 03:11:54 UTC  

That’s not a common term

2019-01-30 03:12:59 UTC  

Also living wages fluctuate per person. That’s a subjective statement.

2019-01-30 03:22:17 UTC  

And also why would a business be entirely reliant on paying all of its employees minimum wage

2019-01-30 03:23:25 UTC  

A business dependent on paying all of its workers minimum wage just to stay afloat probably wouldn’t survive long anyways

2019-01-30 03:23:37 UTC  

With or without a wage hike

2019-01-30 03:24:54 UTC  

hi visitor

2019-01-30 03:25:09 UTC  

have you taken any formal economic classes

2019-01-30 03:25:22 UTC  

im assuming you're in high school so maybe like ap macro/micro?

2019-01-30 03:37:46 UTC  

well one of the things that you learn when you begin studying economics is what minimum wage does to buisnesses

2019-01-30 03:41:58 UTC  

minimum wage is a price floor, which means that businesses can't go below it
firms try to operate at an equilibrium point at least right, so they're not losing money
when the price floor is put, legislation puts it above this equilibrium causing the business to undergo losses if they maintain current production
so they fire workers, increase production whatever to cut losses

2019-01-30 03:42:34 UTC  

ideally a business should not have to do this because it ends up hurting the market even if people are being paid more as seen above^

2019-01-30 03:56:52 UTC  

@hcaez why isn’t Mom back from the store

2019-01-30 03:57:03 UTC  

she'll be back soon

2019-01-30 03:57:09 UTC  

a good example is walmart

2019-01-30 03:57:32 UTC  

Yes Walmart is a store

2019-01-30 03:57:37 UTC  

Walmart makes 480 in revenue, awesome, but they have 465 in costs

2019-01-30 03:57:45 UTC  

Thank you Kanye, very cool!

2019-01-30 03:57:45 UTC  

so their profit is 15 billion

2019-01-30 03:57:56 UTC  

people may say "WOW 15 BILLION WHY DOESNT WALMART INCREASES WAGES"

2019-01-30 03:58:14 UTC  

sure they could, but Walmart has other things to do besides that

2019-01-30 03:58:22 UTC  

Retarded niggas be like “why don’t I get more money for pushing buttons on a cash register”

2019-01-30 03:58:53 UTC  

Amazon and Target are not sitting still, it's a competition they're all constantly improving so that means if Walmart wants to stay running they need to do R&D

2019-01-30 03:59:11 UTC  

opening new stores and new logistics also costs money