Message from @Ben Garrison

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2018-04-27 00:37:47 UTC  

Why not be concerned with white happiness then?

2018-04-27 00:38:53 UTC  

I am, but that is tangential to the political philosophy that underpins the idea of the ethnostate, which is why I never brought it up.

2018-04-27 00:39:20 UTC  

Ohh shit so now you back off it.

2018-04-27 00:39:33 UTC  

Back off what?

2018-04-27 00:39:35 UTC  

I dropped the happiness bomb on you and you loose your nerve.

2018-04-27 00:39:50 UTC  

What the hell are you talking about

2018-04-27 00:39:57 UTC  

We've been talking about the enthnostate for like 3 hours

2018-04-27 00:40:07 UTC  

And now you don't want to talk about it.

2018-04-27 00:40:48 UTC  

You are actually insane. Reread what I said and tell me what makes you think I don’t want to talk about ethnostates.

2018-04-27 00:41:23 UTC  

Wow you're really rattled dayum.

2018-04-27 00:42:24 UTC  

Is this some sort of “epic troll” where you pretend to be retarded and purposefully misconstrue what I say or is this a genuine case of miscommunication

2018-04-27 00:43:02 UTC  

So like when you go up and give your speech to the Whites of Merica, you'll say "I don't care about your happiness, this is about my feelings not yours."

2018-04-27 00:43:16 UTC  

Ok the former, got it.

2018-04-27 00:43:39 UTC  

Why won't you address this then?

2018-04-27 00:44:05 UTC  

Are Ethnostates happier? What is the value in their existence?

2018-04-27 00:45:54 UTC  

I have already answered that question, you are arguing in bad faith. Unless you can point out what sentence made you think I no longer wanted to talk about ethnostates then we’re done here

2018-04-27 00:47:11 UTC  

You said vague statements like "unity" and "A homeland" but none of that covers if the people are actually happy.

2018-04-27 00:47:39 UTC  

Please point out the sentence that made you think I no longer wished to discuss ethnostates.

2018-04-27 00:48:08 UTC  

You derailed to call me a Jew. That's the biggest insult you have really.

2018-04-27 00:48:46 UTC  

Since Nazi really don't seem to like Jews.

2018-04-27 00:49:41 UTC  

I have explained why, and you still have not answered that directly either. You accused me of not wishing to discuss ethnostates after I said that the happiness factor is tangential to the political philosophy of ethnostates.

2018-04-27 00:50:34 UTC  

Why won't you discuss it though. To me it seemed like a huge forced derail.

2018-04-27 00:50:53 UTC  

Discuss it being happiness?

2018-04-27 00:51:04 UTC  

Discuss Happiness

2018-04-27 00:51:39 UTC  

I didn’t discuss it because it had nothing to do with the legitimacy of ethnostates, which is what we were talking about

2018-04-27 00:51:55 UTC  

Well at least that’s what was being typed. I can’t speak for the separate conversation in your head

2018-04-27 00:52:06 UTC  

Like we've spent a ton of time asking "is the Ethnostate practical/possible?"

2018-04-27 00:53:09 UTC  

But what is more important is "What value does an Ethnostate provide to it's citizens?" And you can't seem to justify its cost.

2018-04-27 00:54:07 UTC  

Like imagine I said "I think we should turn all boys Trans, it is possible with modern technology."

2018-04-27 00:54:07 UTC  

I did though. The stability and unity that comes with having a homogeneous population. Happiness can come from that but it isn’t the cornerstone principle regarding ethnostates.

2018-04-27 00:54:40 UTC  

Nor is it necessarily the goal.

2018-04-27 00:54:56 UTC  

Keyword being necessarily before you misconstrue what I’ve said again.

2018-04-27 00:55:35 UTC  

So the values are Stability and Unity?

2018-04-27 00:56:02 UTC  

Unity mostly, stability follows from it

2018-04-27 00:56:32 UTC  

Okay so we have to do a cost analysis against other options.

2018-04-27 00:56:54 UTC  

Only if your primary values are material.

2018-04-27 00:57:02 UTC  

If they aren’t, no cost is too great.

2018-04-27 00:57:23 UTC  

Well not if you starve to death in the process.

2018-04-27 00:57:31 UTC  

You'll never finish the work then.

2018-04-27 00:58:04 UTC  

Then there’s no nation to exist. It’s a self defeating situation that need not be considered

2018-04-27 00:58:45 UTC  

If you give away all of America's money and destroy our economy in the process it could happen.