Message from @PizzaPants

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2018-04-27 00:48:08 UTC  

You derailed to call me a Jew. That's the biggest insult you have really.

2018-04-27 00:48:46 UTC  

Since Nazi really don't seem to like Jews.

2018-04-27 00:49:41 UTC  

I have explained why, and you still have not answered that directly either. You accused me of not wishing to discuss ethnostates after I said that the happiness factor is tangential to the political philosophy of ethnostates.

2018-04-27 00:50:34 UTC  

Why won't you discuss it though. To me it seemed like a huge forced derail.

2018-04-27 00:50:53 UTC  

Discuss it being happiness?

2018-04-27 00:51:04 UTC  

Discuss Happiness

2018-04-27 00:51:39 UTC  

I didn’t discuss it because it had nothing to do with the legitimacy of ethnostates, which is what we were talking about

2018-04-27 00:51:55 UTC  

Well at least that’s what was being typed. I can’t speak for the separate conversation in your head

2018-04-27 00:52:06 UTC  

Like we've spent a ton of time asking "is the Ethnostate practical/possible?"

2018-04-27 00:53:09 UTC  

But what is more important is "What value does an Ethnostate provide to it's citizens?" And you can't seem to justify its cost.

2018-04-27 00:54:07 UTC  

Like imagine I said "I think we should turn all boys Trans, it is possible with modern technology."

2018-04-27 00:54:07 UTC  

I did though. The stability and unity that comes with having a homogeneous population. Happiness can come from that but it isn’t the cornerstone principle regarding ethnostates.

2018-04-27 00:54:40 UTC  

Nor is it necessarily the goal.

2018-04-27 00:54:56 UTC  

Keyword being necessarily before you misconstrue what I’ve said again.

2018-04-27 00:55:35 UTC  

So the values are Stability and Unity?

2018-04-27 00:56:02 UTC  

Unity mostly, stability follows from it

2018-04-27 00:56:32 UTC  

Okay so we have to do a cost analysis against other options.

2018-04-27 00:56:54 UTC  

Only if your primary values are material.

2018-04-27 00:57:02 UTC  

If they aren’t, no cost is too great.

2018-04-27 00:57:23 UTC  

Well not if you starve to death in the process.

2018-04-27 00:57:31 UTC  

You'll never finish the work then.

2018-04-27 00:58:04 UTC  

Then there’s no nation to exist. It’s a self defeating situation that need not be considered

2018-04-27 00:58:45 UTC  

If you give away all of America's money and destroy our economy in the process it could happen.

2018-04-27 00:59:26 UTC  

Do you think fiat currency is integral to the agricultural production of this nation or that nonwhites own even close to a majority of this nations wealth?

2018-04-27 00:59:29 UTC  

There are three costs to be concerned with the Material, the Cultural, and the Spiritual.

2018-04-27 01:00:28 UTC  

The material costs will be immense, there’s no debate there. The cultural and spiritual stands to benefit.

2018-04-27 01:00:47 UTC  

Well there is a debate over if it is a sin or not.

2018-04-27 01:01:01 UTC  

Deportation?

2018-04-27 01:01:58 UTC  

Forced deportation, collection of assets, and the executions.

2018-04-27 01:03:21 UTC  

That's at least two of the 10 commandments.

2018-04-27 01:03:28 UTC  

I never said they should have their assets confiscated without proper compensation or that they should be executed though. Examining forced deportation in the context of them having fair financial treatment during the transition I don’t think it could be argued that it’s a sin.

2018-04-27 01:03:48 UTC  

Perhaps not within the proper “Christian spirit” but not a sin

2018-04-27 01:04:00 UTC  

Are they all going to leave willingly?

2018-04-27 01:04:09 UTC  

For many, no

2018-04-27 01:04:15 UTC  

If I had to guess

2018-04-27 01:04:26 UTC  

So you're going to kill those who refuse to leave?

2018-04-27 01:05:07 UTC  

If they’re stupid enough to violently protest, because if they’re not violently protesting then they’re not going to be avoiding it.

2018-04-27 01:05:19 UTC  

That's two sins right there.

2018-04-27 01:05:36 UTC  

If you kill a non-violent protester

2018-04-27 01:06:03 UTC  

Good thing I just said that wouldn’t be the case.

2018-04-27 01:06:25 UTC  

Okay so any POC who nonviolently protests gets to stay