Message from @Ben Garrison
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Cute.
So what's your take on suicide?
Depends on the situation
If a healthy white person kills himself is that a loss?
Yes, a tragic loss.
Why not be concerned with white happiness then?
I am, but that is tangential to the political philosophy that underpins the idea of the ethnostate, which is why I never brought it up.
Ohh shit so now you back off it.
Back off what?
I dropped the happiness bomb on you and you loose your nerve.
What the hell are you talking about
We've been talking about the enthnostate for like 3 hours
And now you don't want to talk about it.
You are actually insane. Reread what I said and tell me what makes you think I don’t want to talk about ethnostates.
Wow you're really rattled dayum.
Is this some sort of “epic troll” where you pretend to be retarded and purposefully misconstrue what I say or is this a genuine case of miscommunication
So like when you go up and give your speech to the Whites of Merica, you'll say "I don't care about your happiness, this is about my feelings not yours."
Ok the former, got it.
Why won't you address this then?
Are Ethnostates happier? What is the value in their existence?
I have already answered that question, you are arguing in bad faith. Unless you can point out what sentence made you think I no longer wanted to talk about ethnostates then we’re done here
You said vague statements like "unity" and "A homeland" but none of that covers if the people are actually happy.
Please point out the sentence that made you think I no longer wished to discuss ethnostates.
You derailed to call me a Jew. That's the biggest insult you have really.
Since Nazi really don't seem to like Jews.
I have explained why, and you still have not answered that directly either. You accused me of not wishing to discuss ethnostates after I said that the happiness factor is tangential to the political philosophy of ethnostates.
Why won't you discuss it though. To me it seemed like a huge forced derail.
Discuss it being happiness?
Discuss Happiness
I didn’t discuss it because it had nothing to do with the legitimacy of ethnostates, which is what we were talking about
Well at least that’s what was being typed. I can’t speak for the separate conversation in your head
Like we've spent a ton of time asking "is the Ethnostate practical/possible?"
But what is more important is "What value does an Ethnostate provide to it's citizens?" And you can't seem to justify its cost.
Like imagine I said "I think we should turn all boys Trans, it is possible with modern technology."
I did though. The stability and unity that comes with having a homogeneous population. Happiness can come from that but it isn’t the cornerstone principle regarding ethnostates.
Nor is it necessarily the goal.
Keyword being necessarily before you misconstrue what I’ve said again.
So the values are Stability and Unity?
Unity mostly, stability follows from it
Okay so we have to do a cost analysis against other options.
Only if your primary values are material.