lmao

The USSR was socialist

the "it wasn't real communism" phrase is used by anarchists

they are manbabies

"Have we finally achieved full communism?" "Oh hell no it's about to get a whole lot worse"

Socialism is a transitional period between capitalism and communism. The end goal of socialism is communism (a classless, STATELESS, money-less, society based off of a community)

Which is fatal to life

Communism only works on paper, it doesn't take into account human nature which is to be shit. It can't and won't ever work as long as a human is running it.

"muh human nature" so its human nature to exploit the 3rd world

Yes

***quickscopes Karl Marx***

Its human nature to take from the weak to benefit your own tribe

do you think communism is greedy?

On paper no, the people in charge in reality yes because human nature

Ironically, human nature is the biggest flaw of capitalism. Capitalism is extremely better than anything else, but even it needs some regulation or else greed will destroy the society.

Communism doesn't take in to account that people are inherently lazy

@Boethiah you just contradicted yourself, you just said communism is greedy but human nature greedy so communism must work then

lmao

and i already talked about how the USSR was good in <#441728840025374731> but i gtg soon

No I didn't? I said the people in charge are greedy because they're human and therefore susceptible to human nature. Like I said communism looks fine on paper.

Then again infinite food water and magical cure-alls look good on paper, doesn't make them reality.

***quickscopes USSR***

"the people in charge were greedy and human nature is greedy so capitalism must work because its greedy yet communism is greedy somehow"

@Boethiah have you ever heard of post-scarcity before

of course its not infinite

but i gtg soon

so hurry up

Capitalism regulates the greed better because the ruling class doesn't have an iron grip on every aspect of their citizens life. It's not perfect but I can buy food and games, can Venezuelans say the same?

Venezuala is capitalist

i already went through this

lol "not real communism" oh boy here we go

70% of Venezuela's economy is part of the private sector. it's capitalist.

**state regulations =/= socialism**

Breaking news! Socialist leaders aren't socialist, more at 11!

The USSR was socialist because the workers owned the means of production through workers councils. Does Venezuela have this? **no**

What would you call the Venezuelan system, heavy handed state capitalism?

That's why the USSR is alive and thriving today and everyone is trying to migrate to it because socialism is amazing right?

@Ben Garrison it's just normal capitalism.

It’s very clearly not “normal capitalism” as 9/10 people associate capitalism with laissez-faire policies.

@Boethiah Gorbachev abolished the USSR and implemented capitalist reforms

also during 1990 referendum around 76% of the USSR populations voted to keep the USSR