Also in the same vein... it wasn’t the Iraqi government

All I am saying is that we should preserve all allies we have

How about this: the holocaust. Very little was known for a while about what the Germans were doing with their internment camps. Should we have applied the presumption of innocence to them?

We should have done an investigation

Ok so we should preserve Canada and the EU

If they take advantage then no

Saudi Arabia just took advantage in a huge way

Can’t confirm

So instead of stopping the holocaust we should have investigated that...

Nice

No...

Also, we may never get more evidence than what we currently have

We need to make decisions

Yes but we have to weight the risk vs rewards

Absolutely

Countries that are allies with China

China has done some bad things

But it is a strong ally to have

We need to have strong allies in Asia

In Europe all they do is take advantage of us

What have they done for us

Fought with us in several wars. Trade with us.

Lopsided trade

You have cited nothing for that

It’s an empty claim

And it’s wrong

Also Britain colonized us

The Americans were treated horribly

We can’t just forget that

Alright well that view is just weird

Lots has happened since then

We need to take charge of trade

We need to act like China

We can’t just sit and complain about how China is unfair

We should start stealing intellectual property

Ok we’re veering off tracks I’m out

We should start helping our companies go higher than Chinas

Well we were speaking about how we need allies in Asia instead of Europe

Where are my fellow falangists?

Ba’athist gang?

not much presence here