Message from @bandit

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2018-10-26 19:23:36 UTC  

You seem to be unable to have a discussion seeing as you can't answer questions

2018-10-26 19:23:43 UTC  

You just go on tangents and talk past me

2018-10-26 19:23:45 UTC  

👃

2018-10-26 19:23:45 UTC  

Bye then

2018-10-26 19:23:48 UTC  

womp womp

2018-10-26 19:23:48 UTC  

Blocked for now

2018-10-26 19:23:51 UTC  

so sad to see you go

2018-10-26 19:23:53 UTC  

you refuse to define anything

2018-10-26 19:23:55 UTC  

I'll never recover

2018-10-26 19:24:06 UTC  

blocking people is for pussies, srsly get over yourself

2018-10-26 19:24:09 UTC  

@Obungus How do you mean?

2018-10-26 19:24:18 UTC  

What is a white supremacist?

2018-10-26 19:24:40 UTC  

someone who thinks whites are superior to other races

2018-10-26 19:24:45 UTC  

hush you

2018-10-26 19:25:02 UTC  

This is really the best point that has been made in the entire conversation so I'll repeat it one last time:
When you use a moral condemnation to describe someone instead of a neutrally descriptive term you're a polemicist and not documenting reality impartially.
"Racist" and "white supremacist" are vague synonyms for "jerk" or "asshole" and not intended to describe a position. The belief that East Asians score higher than whites on IQ tests and the belief that all black people should be killed are both "racist" which goes to show you how ridiculously vague of a term it is.

2018-10-26 19:25:06 UTC  

I mean, it's a complicated subject and I don't think you can define things like this in one sentence, but I would say someone who says that white people are better then other races, because of genetic reasons.

2018-10-26 19:25:37 UTC  

We are not asking everything a white supremacist believes

2018-10-26 19:25:45 UTC  

but if they exist then they have a defining quality

2018-10-26 19:25:56 UTC  

I just defined it for you Obungus

2018-10-26 19:25:57 UTC  

Does Jarod Taylor have this quality/belief?

2018-10-26 19:26:08 UTC  

I mean, I haven't listened to Jared taylor

2018-10-26 19:26:19 UTC  

well technically if its a fact then its not racist. like if i were to say that there is a higher percentage of black people arrested every year than whites. thats a fact, but it doesnt make me racist

2018-10-26 19:26:27 UTC  

But I am familiar with his kind, so I will make a general statement.

2018-10-26 19:26:38 UTC  

What is his kind?

2018-10-26 19:26:45 UTC  

Jared Taylor is a hereditarian i.e. he believes the black/white IQ gap is heritable.

2018-10-26 19:27:03 UTC  

Heritability basically means measured variation between individuals is a % result of genetic differences

2018-10-26 19:27:09 UTC  

we can determine this between individuals with twin studies

2018-10-26 19:27:18 UTC  

How it basically works is you get a group of fraternal and identical twins

2018-10-26 19:27:25 UTC  

If the identical twins are more similar in let's say height

2018-10-26 19:27:32 UTC  

you measure their height to be on average more similar

2018-10-26 19:27:53 UTC  

You know that even though both groups have the same "shared environment" at home, the identical twins ended up more similar as a result of greater genetic similarity

2018-10-26 19:28:00 UTC  

We assume that its' a 50% increase in genetic similarity

2018-10-26 19:28:06 UTC  

comparing identical to fraternal

2018-10-26 19:28:23 UTC  

And if you see a 40% increase in correlation of scores i.e. greater similarity that would roughly work out to a .9 heritability coefficient

2018-10-26 19:28:34 UTC  

or 90% of differences in height between individuals are a result of genetic differences

2018-10-26 19:28:41 UTC  

so what even is the argument here?

2018-10-26 19:28:51 UTC  

Is Jarod Taylor a white supremacist

2018-10-26 19:28:57 UTC  

I think

2018-10-26 19:28:59 UTC  

i dont know whom that is

2018-10-26 19:29:00 UTC  

So Jared Taylor is a "white supremacist" for believing that the black/white IQ gap is heritable

2018-10-26 19:29:01 UTC  

I do think that if you constantly atribute positive characteristics to white people (like high IQ) and then attribute negative characteristics to africans (being agresive) and then say that the cause that white people have all this positive attributes, and africans these negative atributes, is race. that yes, you then are implying that white people are superior to at least african.