Message from @bandit
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Divergence time estimates from mitochondrial and nuclear data place the split between Asiatic and Southern African cheetahs (Acinonyx jubatus jubatus) at 32 000–67 000 ya using an average mammalian microsatellite mutation rate and at 4700–44 000 ya
I mean, I don't think that this comparison is very valid. subspecies of insects can develop in just a couple of years, that doesn't mean that if we isolate two communities of humans for 10 years they will be two different subspecies
Their generation is 3 times faster,
not 1,000 times faster
Insects reproduce a lot faster though
I know
In all the studies which have compared frequency of SNPs associated with IQ by race
I'm saying that you can;'t say that if cheetas develop subspecies in 30,000 years, then it must be the same for humans
Africans always have a lower frequency of "high IQ gene variants"
this isn't my opinion
it's a fact
and it speaks very poorly of the hypothesis
that the black white IQ gap
is 100% environmental in cause
However my opinion on these discussion is that it is pointless
Also that is quite the strawman, I don't think anyone is saying 100%
Yes they do.
Just that environment plays a big factor
But back to the point
Especially in an environment like this
This just seems to be purely scientific, all we can really do is throw studies at eachother
Show me any study which does two things
1. Looks at SNPs which have been shown in GWAS to be related to IQ by race
2. Shows they're almost evenly distributed by race. I'll ignore anything as small as a 10% difference by race to be "noise"
If you show me any such study I will massively revise my position on race & IQ
And I don't think that contributes to anything
I would just leave this matter out of politics for now, and leave it in the purely scientific.
Ok, so actually showing that we have the same genetic capacities "doesn't contribute" to proving the exact such claim?
Well
it's a matter of politics
All nonwhite dysfunction is blamed on white racism
You know
take Luxembourg compare the PISA Scores to Japan and Korea
all European countries score worse on PISA
even when they spend
per student
MORE THAN 3X AS MUCH
Making it political only makes research capabilities worse
Try getting a grant to do IQ research
leftists have made it impossible to discuss this openly
Because it competes with their hypothesis of "whitey responsible for all misfortunes nonwhites suffer"