Okay stretch armstrong

the foundation of your distaste for immigration seems to be from fear of becoming a minority

an ethnic minority

A well founded fear.

What happened to the Romans?

The Greeks?

Would a Roman saying "wow that is too many Germans" be a Roman supremacist?

Cool it with the anti-Germanic remarks there Gaius

Im not sure what point youre attempting to make. Refugees are equal to barbarians?

The barbarians were literally refugees

Fleeing Attila the Hun

They requested permission to settle in Roman territory for concessions

The Roman government agreed

Then they established their own kingdoms after usurping power from Rome itself

Do you think the Suebi came over the Rhine as an army? No. They came over as hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children.

Low roman birthrate and civic participation meant that the Germans were able to establish control very quickly with a rapid influx.

Sorry, I had to do something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the two Goth groups, united by the poor treatment from Rome, fought against an unprepared Roman army

There were dozens of German tribes in Roman territory.

From my understanding, this proves my point of treating refugees' will compassion

"Treat refugees well or they will kill you and take your land"

I mean the political groups, sorry

The Roman government told the Germans to pay taxes and stop raiding their neighbors.

The Germans told them to fuck off. The Romans sent in the Legions

The Legions were majority Germanic by this time

Civil wars all over the place

It would be better to simply encourage the native birthrate and keep the barbarians out.

We don't have any obligation to put ourselves in the victim position in a hostage situation

The relationship between the Goths and the Romans was all over the place. Romans solders profited of supplies the roman government sent to help the refugees, that caused the two german political groups to fight the romans

>political groups

Ethnic groups.

The Goths were a nomadic horde. The horde contained the entirety of their ethnic group.

Why not just keep them out?

It was bad for Rome

No retard, Tervingi and the Greuthungi where the two goth political groups.

It was bad for rome because mistreatment of refugees lead to war

Wikipedia literally defines those two as tribes

Not a political group

They didn't have Young Tervingi college clubs

Why is Rome obligated to suck up to foreign guests or be destroyed?

Rome is only obligated to her citizens.

Let them handle their own business.