Message from @Toro

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2018-10-31 14:57:32 UTC  

I will widen the scope of what you can cite

2018-10-31 14:58:00 UTC  

Name one mass migration situation where the original inhabitants benefited from the situation.

2018-10-31 15:01:52 UTC  

I can't think of a situation involving mass migration, but the first thing that comes to mind is ellis island (12 million i think) immigrants coming into the united states and eventually merging with the population

2018-10-31 15:02:30 UTC  

And Anglo Americans benefited?

2018-10-31 15:02:47 UTC  

By losing political and economic power?

2018-10-31 15:03:05 UTC  

Becoming a small minority of the population?

2018-10-31 15:03:39 UTC  

You seem to be afraid of becoming a minority, am I wrong?

2018-10-31 15:03:54 UTC  

Minorities don't tend to be treated well.

2018-10-31 15:04:03 UTC  

In any historical situation.

2018-10-31 15:04:35 UTC  

When the majority becomes the minority, bad things happen in almost every occurance.

2018-10-31 15:05:37 UTC  

Indeed, so I feel that that Europe will give minorities opportunities and allow them to escape Islam. Do you feel that the white ethnicity is better?

2018-10-31 15:06:08 UTC  

>becoming a minority is bad
>"so you believe your race is superior"

2018-10-31 15:06:36 UTC  

Okay stretch armstrong

2018-10-31 15:07:25 UTC  

the foundation of your distaste for immigration seems to be from fear of becoming a minority

2018-10-31 15:07:39 UTC  

an ethnic minority

2018-10-31 15:07:49 UTC  

A well founded fear.

2018-10-31 15:07:56 UTC  

What happened to the Romans?

2018-10-31 15:07:59 UTC  

The Greeks?

2018-10-31 15:08:37 UTC  

Would a Roman saying "wow that is too many Germans" be a Roman supremacist?

2018-10-31 15:08:59 UTC  

Cool it with the anti-Germanic remarks there Gaius

2018-10-31 15:12:10 UTC  

Im not sure what point youre attempting to make. Refugees are equal to barbarians?

2018-10-31 15:12:29 UTC  

The barbarians were literally refugees

2018-10-31 15:12:36 UTC  

Fleeing Attila the Hun

2018-10-31 15:12:53 UTC  

They requested permission to settle in Roman territory for concessions

2018-10-31 15:12:59 UTC  

The Roman government agreed

2018-10-31 15:13:16 UTC  

Then they established their own kingdoms after usurping power from Rome itself

2018-10-31 15:14:04 UTC  

Do you think the Suebi came over the Rhine as an army? No. They came over as hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children.

2018-10-31 15:14:38 UTC  

Low roman birthrate and civic participation meant that the Germans were able to establish control very quickly with a rapid influx.

2018-10-31 15:19:23 UTC  

Sorry, I had to do something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the two Goth groups, united by the poor treatment from Rome, fought against an unprepared Roman army

2018-10-31 15:19:46 UTC  

There were dozens of German tribes in Roman territory.

2018-10-31 15:19:59 UTC  

From my understanding, this proves my point of treating refugees' will compassion

2018-10-31 15:20:21 UTC  

"Treat refugees well or they will kill you and take your land"

2018-10-31 15:20:36 UTC  

I mean the political groups, sorry

2018-10-31 15:20:41 UTC  

The Roman government told the Germans to pay taxes and stop raiding their neighbors.

2018-10-31 15:21:06 UTC  

The Germans told them to fuck off. The Romans sent in the Legions

2018-10-31 15:21:16 UTC  

The Legions were majority Germanic by this time

2018-10-31 15:21:25 UTC  

Civil wars all over the place

2018-10-31 15:22:28 UTC  

It would be better to simply encourage the native birthrate and keep the barbarians out.

2018-10-31 15:22:57 UTC  

We don't have any obligation to put ourselves in the victim position in a hostage situation

2018-10-31 15:25:50 UTC  

The relationship between the Goths and the Romans was all over the place. Romans solders profited of supplies the roman government sent to help the refugees, that caused the two german political groups to fight the romans

2018-10-31 15:26:03 UTC  

>political groups