Why have socialism when you got capitalism

It's human nature.

Isn't socialism about equal distribution of wealth?

I'm not for that.

you would get paid more under socialism lol, there's a clear difference between human nature and human behaviour, the human nature argument has been abused

Something shitty like that yeah lol\

it isn't

that's egalitarianism

socialism isn't egalitarian

Socialism requires armed force.

no it isn't, socialism can still be established democratically by the will of the people, you cant have socialism without the people wanting it

Okay, you would get paid more (depending on your current job) but you would also get taxed more no?

you wools get taxed slightly, but you would still earn more under socialism

would*

hmm 🤔

because under capitalism profit comes from extracting surplus value from workers, under socialism there's no such thing

so you would get paid more

Socialism requires armed force to collect the high tax fees required.

there is no high tax fees, and nor does it require armed forces, you can only establish socialism if the people want it.

you would get taxed yes, but lesser.

...and the people DON'T WANT IT.

@Leiro レイロ So basically you're saying it will fail

Well it will eventually come

@TheBestGangster which part of my argument said it would fail?

the socialism part lmao

@Fere Nemo if you have ever read up on historical materialism you would know socialism is inevitable

You're making some bold claims right there. It's kinda hard to be convinced.

Nevada is a blue state now. Sad days as we lose another swing state.

It will eventually come again. And it will eventually fail again.

okay guys, one by one please, don't gangbang me

what are your questions about socialism and your doubts?

@Leiro レイロ You'd like that wouldn't you

like what?

how would you get paid more under socialism?

ah forget about it, you didn't catch on

If you are a doctor, for example, who is already making more than anyone else.

Rightfully so

@ibm30rpg under socialism your paid according to socially necessary labour time, under capitalism the bourgeois extracts surplus value from the workers, so you earn less under socialism

Socialism depends on human kindness, which is a fantasy. Capitalism depends on human greed, which is human.

there is no wage labour or surplus value in socialism

@ibm30rpg the argument isn't about who gets paid more, we are only concerned about the bourgeois