Message from @ibm30rpg

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2018-11-07 07:38:57 UTC  

Like North Korea

2018-11-07 07:39:04 UTC  

unless ur trying to say they are the same thing

2018-11-07 07:39:05 UTC  

And communism is just communism

2018-11-07 07:39:14 UTC  

Socialism requires force.

2018-11-07 07:39:16 UTC  

I'm not a communist so I don't really care about that

2018-11-07 07:39:38 UTC  

and North Korea isn't ML, their freaking Juche and have no correspondence to Marxist ideas

2018-11-07 07:39:44 UTC  

A socialist country can easily become corrupt because of what the government

2018-11-07 07:39:50 UTC  

Wants

2018-11-07 07:39:50 UTC  

This is just me, but I don't think socialism works because people like feeling better off than other people.

2018-11-07 07:39:52 UTC  

Why have socialism when you got capitalism

2018-11-07 07:39:59 UTC  

It's human nature.

2018-11-07 07:40:18 UTC  

Isn't socialism about equal distribution of wealth?

2018-11-07 07:40:22 UTC  

I'm not for that.

2018-11-07 07:40:24 UTC  

you would get paid more under socialism lol, there's a clear difference between human nature and human behaviour, the human nature argument has been abused

2018-11-07 07:40:26 UTC  

Something shitty like that yeah lol\

2018-11-07 07:40:27 UTC  

it isn't

2018-11-07 07:40:30 UTC  

that's egalitarianism

2018-11-07 07:40:34 UTC  

socialism isn't egalitarian

2018-11-07 07:40:46 UTC  

Socialism requires armed force.

2018-11-07 07:41:18 UTC  

no it isn't, socialism can still be established democratically by the will of the people, you cant have socialism without the people wanting it

2018-11-07 07:41:23 UTC  

Okay, you would get paid more (depending on your current job) but you would also get taxed more no?

2018-11-07 07:41:47 UTC  

you wools get taxed slightly, but you would still earn more under socialism

2018-11-07 07:41:51 UTC  

would*

2018-11-07 07:41:59 UTC  

hmm 🤔

2018-11-07 07:42:22 UTC  

because under capitalism profit comes from extracting surplus value from workers, under socialism there's no such thing

2018-11-07 07:42:33 UTC  

so you would get paid more

2018-11-07 07:42:40 UTC  

Socialism requires armed force to collect the high tax fees required.

2018-11-07 07:43:06 UTC  

there is no high tax fees, and nor does it require armed forces, you can only establish socialism if the people want it.

2018-11-07 07:43:16 UTC  

you would get taxed yes, but lesser.

2018-11-07 07:43:29 UTC  

...and the people DON'T WANT IT.

2018-11-07 07:43:36 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ So basically you're saying it will fail

2018-11-07 07:43:40 UTC  

Well it will eventually come

2018-11-07 07:43:52 UTC  

@TheBestGangster which part of my argument said it would fail?

2018-11-07 07:43:59 UTC  

the socialism part lmao

2018-11-07 07:44:11 UTC  

@Fere Nemo if you have ever read up on historical materialism you would know socialism is inevitable

2018-11-07 07:44:14 UTC  

You're making some bold claims right there. It's kinda hard to be convinced.

2018-11-07 07:44:21 UTC  

Nevada is a blue state now. Sad days as we lose another swing state.

2018-11-07 07:44:28 UTC  

It will eventually come again. And it will eventually fail again.

2018-11-07 07:44:31 UTC  

okay guys, one by one please, don't gangbang me

2018-11-07 07:44:45 UTC  

what are your questions about socialism and your doubts?

2018-11-07 07:44:48 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ You'd like that wouldn't you