because under capitalism profit comes from extracting surplus value from workers, under socialism there's no such thing

so you would get paid more

Socialism requires armed force to collect the high tax fees required.

there is no high tax fees, and nor does it require armed forces, you can only establish socialism if the people want it.

you would get taxed yes, but lesser.

...and the people DON'T WANT IT.

@Leiro レイロ So basically you're saying it will fail

Well it will eventually come

@TheBestGangster which part of my argument said it would fail?

the socialism part lmao

@Fere Nemo if you have ever read up on historical materialism you would know socialism is inevitable

You're making some bold claims right there. It's kinda hard to be convinced.

Nevada is a blue state now. Sad days as we lose another swing state.

It will eventually come again. And it will eventually fail again.

okay guys, one by one please, don't gangbang me

what are your questions about socialism and your doubts?

@Leiro レイロ You'd like that wouldn't you

like what?

how would you get paid more under socialism?

ah forget about it, you didn't catch on

If you are a doctor, for example, who is already making more than anyone else.

Rightfully so

@ibm30rpg under socialism your paid according to socially necessary labour time, under capitalism the bourgeois extracts surplus value from the workers, so you earn less under socialism

Socialism depends on human kindness, which is a fantasy. Capitalism depends on human greed, which is human.

there is no wage labour or surplus value in socialism

@ibm30rpg the argument isn't about who gets paid more, we are only concerned about the bourgeois

hmm...

people would get paid more, that's a fact unless you live in a egalitarian hellhole

I don't support that either

So would you be anti-big corporation, like anti-Google, for example?

corporations like Google regularly censor conservative movements because they serve the interests of certain groups

Egalitarian is good..

Socialism also gets rid of competition, which is basically why capitalism does so well

I think it would be nice to have more competition.

You know to me, socialism prepares for communism

but in order to get so successful to start socialism to begin with, you need capitalism

@TheBestGangster that's historical materialism

you need capitalism first before socialism

that's a fact

since capitalism is so badass

socialism, oof