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@TheBestGangster there has been no communist state in existence, there have only been socialist states
I'll try my damndest to make you long dead before we have socialism.
yeah, because communism is only good on paper
for now Ill have my dank capitalism, thank you very much
I do not give a fuck about communism, I want to hear why you think socialism is only good on paper and cannot be practiced
Socialism can be abused
hey i said communism, I never said socialism is only good on paper
Like North Korea
unless ur trying to say they are the same thing
And communism is just communism
Socialism requires force.
I'm not a communist so I don't really care about that
and North Korea isn't ML, their freaking Juche and have no correspondence to Marxist ideas
A socialist country can easily become corrupt because of what the government
Wants
This is just me, but I don't think socialism works because people like feeling better off than other people.
Why have socialism when you got capitalism
It's human nature.
Isn't socialism about equal distribution of wealth?
you would get paid more under socialism lol, there's a clear difference between human nature and human behaviour, the human nature argument has been abused
Something shitty like that yeah lol\
it isn't
that's egalitarianism
socialism isn't egalitarian
Socialism requires armed force.
no it isn't, socialism can still be established democratically by the will of the people, you cant have socialism without the people wanting it
Okay, you would get paid more (depending on your current job) but you would also get taxed more no?
you wools get taxed slightly, but you would still earn more under socialism
would*
hmm 🤔
because under capitalism profit comes from extracting surplus value from workers, under socialism there's no such thing
so you would get paid more
Socialism requires armed force to collect the high tax fees required.
there is no high tax fees, and nor does it require armed forces, you can only establish socialism if the people want it.
you would get taxed yes, but lesser.
...and the people DON'T WANT IT.
@Leiro レイロ So basically you're saying it will fail
Well it will eventually come
@TheBestGangster which part of my argument said it would fail?