Message from @ibm30rpg

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2018-11-07 07:37:08 UTC  

so Mexico has to pay more tariffs on trade

2018-11-07 07:37:10 UTC  

Because communism only works in two places, heaven where its not needed and hell where they already have it

2018-11-07 07:37:17 UTC  

@ibm30rpg I'm pretty sure tarrifs would reflect on the prices of consumer goods

2018-11-07 07:37:25 UTC  

for them

2018-11-07 07:37:28 UTC  

not us

2018-11-07 07:37:36 UTC  

@TheBestGangster there has been no communist state in existence, there have only been socialist states

2018-11-07 07:37:43 UTC  

I'll try my damndest to make you long dead before we have socialism.

2018-11-07 07:37:50 UTC  

yeah, because communism is only good on paper

2018-11-07 07:38:24 UTC  

for now Ill have my dank capitalism, thank you very much

2018-11-07 07:38:34 UTC  

I do not give a fuck about communism, I want to hear why you think socialism is only good on paper and cannot be practiced

2018-11-07 07:38:52 UTC  

Socialism can be abused

2018-11-07 07:38:53 UTC  

hey i said communism, I never said socialism is only good on paper

2018-11-07 07:38:57 UTC  

Like North Korea

2018-11-07 07:39:04 UTC  

unless ur trying to say they are the same thing

2018-11-07 07:39:05 UTC  

And communism is just communism

2018-11-07 07:39:14 UTC  

Socialism requires force.

2018-11-07 07:39:16 UTC  

I'm not a communist so I don't really care about that

2018-11-07 07:39:38 UTC  

and North Korea isn't ML, their freaking Juche and have no correspondence to Marxist ideas

2018-11-07 07:39:44 UTC  

A socialist country can easily become corrupt because of what the government

2018-11-07 07:39:50 UTC  

Wants

2018-11-07 07:39:50 UTC  

This is just me, but I don't think socialism works because people like feeling better off than other people.

2018-11-07 07:39:52 UTC  

Why have socialism when you got capitalism

2018-11-07 07:39:59 UTC  

It's human nature.

2018-11-07 07:40:18 UTC  

Isn't socialism about equal distribution of wealth?

2018-11-07 07:40:22 UTC  

I'm not for that.

2018-11-07 07:40:24 UTC  

you would get paid more under socialism lol, there's a clear difference between human nature and human behaviour, the human nature argument has been abused

2018-11-07 07:40:26 UTC  

Something shitty like that yeah lol\

2018-11-07 07:40:27 UTC  

it isn't

2018-11-07 07:40:30 UTC  

that's egalitarianism

2018-11-07 07:40:34 UTC  

socialism isn't egalitarian

2018-11-07 07:40:46 UTC  

Socialism requires armed force.

2018-11-07 07:41:18 UTC  

no it isn't, socialism can still be established democratically by the will of the people, you cant have socialism without the people wanting it

2018-11-07 07:41:23 UTC  

Okay, you would get paid more (depending on your current job) but you would also get taxed more no?

2018-11-07 07:41:47 UTC  

you wools get taxed slightly, but you would still earn more under socialism

2018-11-07 07:41:51 UTC  

would*

2018-11-07 07:41:59 UTC  

hmm 🤔

2018-11-07 07:42:22 UTC  

because under capitalism profit comes from extracting surplus value from workers, under socialism there's no such thing

2018-11-07 07:42:33 UTC  

so you would get paid more

2018-11-07 07:42:40 UTC  

Socialism requires armed force to collect the high tax fees required.

2018-11-07 07:43:06 UTC  

there is no high tax fees, and nor does it require armed forces, you can only establish socialism if the people want it.

2018-11-07 07:43:16 UTC  

you would get taxed yes, but lesser.