Message from @Fere Nemo
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I think the dems can elect a new SotH, right?
Opportunity to do what Trump does back in the 80s
Why did you come directly to a Trump server to discuss socialism?
I didn't really, yall just asked about it
I still rather have trump than Clinton
Clinton supports imperialism anyway
@TheBestGangster you would have ample opportunities under socialism, do you mean running a business or coming up with new ideas?
There we go.
Running a business? Running an empire and making a million a day
If I were a democrat, I'd want a new SotH. Pelosi is a total burn-out.
Well, there are two ways you can produce profit.
one is extracting surplus value
I'll DM you Le
another is selling a given commodity at a higher price
Yet another way to produce profit is by armed robbery.
heh heh
the government already does that
eventually, being a millionaire it would incidental under socialism, because you would enjoy most amenities and cheaply made consumer goods if not free, so there's no real reason to love as a millionaire if you enjoy the comforts of life and have access to materialism
Except for power, capitalism is basically legal power. Nothing wrong in it, unfortunately such cannot be achieved in socialism. That's also why a lot of people dont want it
well ideally
legal power of what?
socialism is democracy at its purest
the people decide what they want, not some ceo or a bureaucratic elite
You know personally thats why i dont like it, Americas good as a republic, its a republic not a democracy. People like being a CEO, having legal roles of importance, reputation, and a benefit of money. Nothing wrong in it
What I mean by legal power, well not illegal power - such as a Mobster Don lol
Pelosi should resign to save the Democrat party.
there isnt, a ceo can offshore jobs, because capitalism at its purest and empirical form is a economic system run on logic and mathematics, not for the general good of the people
ceo, importance, they would be incidental really
when we achieve post scarcity
Well its human nature
not incidental
Really want everybody to be cooped up, basically having no importance, a representative, distinction. People arent gonna want it, I guarantee it
the human nature argument is one of the most fallacious I have heard, there's a important distinction between human nature and human behaviour
Socialism bets against human nature. Capitalism relies on it.
when you have this dog-eat-dog attitude to chase for profits obviously people are going to be greedy
@Fere Nemo no, it's a fallacious argument
Read Peter kropotkin
***reads book***