Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-01-11 19:48:08 UTC  

as always

2019-01-11 19:48:24 UTC  

All the malinvestments of the economy were cleared in the bust

2019-01-11 19:48:57 UTC  

CRA required lax lending standards that spread to the rest of the mortgage market. That fueled the mortgage boom and bust.

2019-01-11 19:49:46 UTC  

Yet you agree that the majority of the boom was at least fueled by private, non-obligatory investment not influenced directly by government intervention?

2019-01-11 19:49:57 UTC  

they were influecned

2019-01-11 19:49:58 UTC  

big time

2019-01-11 19:49:59 UTC  

And that’s why I also argue for better lending standards.

2019-01-11 19:50:07 UTC  

If this regulation did NOT exist, this crisis would not have happened

2019-01-11 19:50:25 UTC  

Visitor well thats the case, banks would not have made these loans if it were not for the regulation

2019-01-11 19:50:32 UTC  

They already have good lending standards

2019-01-11 19:51:07 UTC  

I doubt it. MBSs were a new technology that would have made a splash in the investment field anyway, regardless of whether government intervention furthered its adoption.

2019-01-11 19:51:33 UTC  

I wouldn't

2019-01-11 19:51:40 UTC  

banks and investment firms would never have made these loans

2019-01-11 19:51:42 UTC  

100%

2019-01-11 19:51:55 UTC  

While banks go for profit, like any company

2019-01-11 19:52:02 UTC  

Yet they did make them even when they had no further obligation to do so

2019-01-11 19:52:04 UTC  

they have to make sensible decisions to make the profit

2019-01-11 19:52:09 UTC  

Because of the CRA

2019-01-11 19:52:30 UTC  

The CRA didn’t force them to take up anywhere near the level of dubious debt they did

2019-01-11 19:52:36 UTC  

Read above

2019-01-11 19:52:42 UTC  

CRA ratings existed

2019-01-11 19:52:50 UTC  

they were hard pressed by regulators aswell

2019-01-11 19:53:08 UTC  

It contributed to demand, sure, but the government building roads doesn’t create booms and busts in the pavement sector

2019-01-11 19:53:13 UTC  

The state effectively distorted the mortgage market due to it's central planning

2019-01-11 19:53:18 UTC  

Thats not a good comparison

2019-01-11 19:53:39 UTC  

What kind of comparison would you want instead?

2019-01-11 19:53:47 UTC  

None

2019-01-11 19:53:50 UTC  

it cannot be compared

2019-01-11 19:54:13 UTC  

The CRA was a regulation that did force banks to make these loans, without it, it wouldn't have happened. But there was other things like CRA ratings

2019-01-11 19:54:17 UTC  

And the fact that the CHEAP CREDIT

2019-01-11 19:54:21 UTC  

was another huge factor

2019-01-11 19:54:25 UTC  

Both of those were going to cause a bust

2019-01-11 19:54:27 UTC  

And it was needed

2019-01-11 19:54:38 UTC  

my state’s mandating that people pay for drivers’ insurance doesn’t cause a huge increase in drivers insurance costs and payouts

2019-01-11 19:54:49 UTC  

What?

2019-01-11 19:54:55 UTC  

dude I'm telling you it can't be compared

2019-01-11 19:55:06 UTC  

it's what it is

2019-01-11 19:55:10 UTC  

A regulation that caused a crash

2019-01-11 19:55:23 UTC  

I’d actually agree with you that the Fed’s interest rates were at least a percent too low from 2003-2007.

2019-01-11 19:55:31 UTC  

not a percent, far too low

2019-01-11 19:55:38 UTC  

We don't even know how low because the market should control the rates