Message from @chad

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2019-02-12 16:16:45 UTC  

We have Medicaid

2019-02-12 16:16:47 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-12 16:16:50 UTC  

That’s irrelevant

2019-02-12 16:16:59 UTC  

Then why’d you show that second graph

2019-02-12 16:16:59 UTC  

Infact that supports my idea of private is more efficient

2019-02-12 16:17:12 UTC  

As even though excess demand is there it actually shows the wait times being low

2019-02-12 16:17:16 UTC  

If the second graph shows that our universal healthcare system for seniors works best

2019-02-12 16:17:21 UTC  

which is great as without Medicaid we would have lower wait rimes

2019-02-12 16:17:24 UTC  

Nope

2019-02-12 16:17:28 UTC  

Ye

2019-02-12 16:17:33 UTC  

Dude read the first graph firs

2019-02-12 16:17:34 UTC  

The title

2019-02-12 16:17:58 UTC  

Secondly Medicare creates excess demand which can lead to shortages

2019-02-12 16:18:09 UTC  

Even with this the us healthcare system has the lowest waiting times

2019-02-12 16:18:13 UTC  

Which is amazing

2019-02-12 16:18:19 UTC  

And shows without it, it could be lower

2019-02-12 16:18:19 UTC  

Yeah it also provides seniors with healthcare that a lot of them wouldn’t be able to afford

2019-02-12 16:18:22 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-12 16:18:32 UTC  

Which I’m not arguing here

2019-02-12 16:18:36 UTC  

I’m saying private is far better

2019-02-12 16:18:52 UTC  

Looks like it works great in Germany

2019-02-12 16:19:02 UTC  

And the first graph says “percent of people who could **not** get an appointment within two months”

2019-02-12 16:19:13 UTC  

Yeah

2019-02-12 16:19:14 UTC  

This means 39% in Canada could not get an appointment within two months

2019-02-12 16:19:21 UTC  

which proves the point of long waiting lines

2019-02-12 16:19:23 UTC  

Yeah Canada is messed up

2019-02-12 16:19:31 UTC  

Compared to 6% in the US

2019-02-12 16:19:38 UTC  

Notice how all single payers are worse off in waiting times

2019-02-12 16:19:42 UTC  

Compared to the private ones

2019-02-12 16:19:52 UTC  

Nobody denies Canada’s long wait times tho I just don’t think it’s ONLY due to universal healthcare since there are some countries with universal healthcare who have shorter wait times

2019-02-12 16:19:57 UTC  

Or hybrid systems ( France , Germany , Netherlands and Switzerland)

2019-02-12 16:20:03 UTC  

Canada doesn’t have uni

2019-02-12 16:20:05 UTC  

It has single payer

2019-02-12 16:20:11 UTC  

It’s hospitals are inefficient state run

2019-02-12 16:20:43 UTC  

That’s kinda sweet you care about older people

2019-02-12 16:20:45 UTC  

It’s due to single payer, the free rider problem created by the excess demand of such “free” products

2019-02-12 16:20:54 UTC  

And the inefficiencies of state run hospitals

2019-02-12 16:21:02 UTC  

cause the shortages in Canada

2019-02-12 16:21:07 UTC  

By shortages we mean waiting times

2019-02-12 16:23:20 UTC  

@chad areas like Germany have a strong private sector

2019-02-12 16:23:26 UTC  

And health insurance mandated