I am not using words for emotional impact, you are misreading my intentions

Also, you making this impersonal isn't helping

the problem is if you were to just outright ban abortion it would just make the practise illegal and start a black market. Also it goes against the principle of conservatism that is to stop the government intervening into the personal lives of people.

Murder is a massive violation. it IS personal!

also they already tried that in other nations

no

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_orphans

the problem is abortion is murder

they banned abortion, the pill, condoms etc and it hardly worked out in the long term.

So? The problem isn't the law

and in countries that banned abortion this is what happens instead:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_abortion

and the risk of both the baby and mother dying is increased

which is two lives 🤔

so you support potentially killing twice as many people 🤔

People believe that before a certain point in pregnancy, the child is "not human" or "not living" so they are under the impression that this is not murder.

"so you support potentially killing twice as many people 🤔" No, not once have I said that

I never will

but if you support banning abortion

then it could end up in a scenario

that potentially kills twice as many people

Nope

yes

that's what unsafe abortions are like

are you seriously that retarded?

stop the ad hominems

People believe that before a certain point in pregnancy, the child is "not human" or "not living" so they are under the impression that this is not murder. Teach them otherwise and they will be less likely to attempt it!

You are making a numbers argument to justify murder

Education is the answer, not statistics

people for reasons other than 'education'

youre making another fallacy of composition

no

you're assuming that everyone is 'uneducated' abotu reality

no

who is pro-choice

and i would like evidence for that.

It is not an assumption

then evidence

pro choice people are 'uneducated' about this 'objective' reality that 'a child is not human or living'

i want evidence specifically for that

They say it themselves.