Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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therefore it contradicts your original statement

2018-05-20 09:07:07 UTC  

he does have a point

because there's nothing conflicting about a pro-choice person having that opinion.

so that's why i think it's a jump in logic

because it's a fallacy of composition it assumes pro-choice people are monolithic and have all the same thought process on two seperate issues.

2018-05-20 09:07:51 UTC  

well you guys have fun with this, ima head off cuz its 2 am

2018-05-20 09:07:53 UTC  

gn

2018-05-20 09:07:55 UTC  

You are missing the point

2018-05-20 09:08:06 UTC  

@Tophet lol good night

maybe because i'm less interested in 'slandering' the opposing side and more interested in the 'debate' and 'logic' side of it.

it's more about being intellectually honest to me than just saying things that make the other side look 'bad'

2018-05-20 09:09:04 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 The death penalty is about protecting those left behind. It isn't a "way out" but "a safer way forward"

2018-05-20 09:09:17 UTC  

"maybe because i'm less interested in 'slandering' the opposing side and more interested in the 'debate' and 'logic' side of it.
it's more about being intellectually honest to me than just saying things that make the other side look 'bad'"

Are you high???

maximum security prisons can also protect people left behind so your argument is quite moot.

2018-05-20 09:11:01 UTC  

I have slandered nobody here. To even consider abortion when it is unnecessary is disgusting beyond comprehension! Because it fits the definition of murder (killing without just cause) and it is an unborn child!

the medical definition of a child doesn't apply here if we're playing semantics

so you're making a appeal to emotion

rather then basing it in facts.

2018-05-20 09:11:57 UTC  

"maximum security prisons can also protect people left behind so your argument is quite moot." True. I am not saying that there is no alternative. I am saying your understanding of the death penalty is broken.

an unborn child is a logical non sequiter

the death penalty is nothing but an 'easy way out' for criminals who've done awful things

2018-05-20 09:12:15 UTC  

Are you retarded?

2018-05-20 09:12:33 UTC  

Define child, if we are going to play this game

2018-05-20 09:12:35 UTC  

To be fair that's an arbitrary language delineation and topics like murder are pretty inherently emotional

2018-05-20 09:12:44 UTC  

exactly!

so nothing means anything?

2018-05-20 09:13:01 UTC  

no

i'm questioning the motive of using specific words to 'guide' the emotional debate

2018-05-20 09:13:43 UTC  

murder is unjustly killing a person. Therefore, abortion without medical cause is murder!

2018-05-20 09:14:13 UTC  

I am not using words for emotional impact, you are misreading my intentions

2018-05-20 09:14:33 UTC  

Also, you making this impersonal isn't helping

the problem is if you were to just outright ban abortion it would just make the practise illegal and start a black market. Also it goes against the principle of conservatism that is to stop the government intervening into the personal lives of people.

2018-05-20 09:14:49 UTC  

Murder is a massive violation. it IS personal!

also they already tried that in other nations

2018-05-20 09:15:06 UTC  

no

2018-05-20 09:15:20 UTC  

the problem is abortion is murder

they banned abortion, the pill, condoms etc and it hardly worked out in the long term.

2018-05-20 09:16:48 UTC  

So? The problem isn't the law

and in countries that banned abortion this is what happens instead: