Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼
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yes so when do the male gamete and female gamete 'become' human
There is no magical point at which they become human.
Pretty sure most argue at conception. But something I've never heard explored is instead of working forward from ejaculation to the point of becoming a human, what would be the point at which a newly born child stops being human working backwards?
is it at the very inception?
why at conception?
When a person will result
can the cell even *think*
*is it conscious*
does it *feel pain*
because then it will result in a person
these are all characteristics of a human
wrong questions
no
those are not
so you're saying to me 'something' that doesn't act at all like a human
is a human?
No
*because it will result in a person* so you're talking about consequences
so you're also going to ignore all the consequences that this puts on the woman?
?
We live with the consequences of our actions
*it going to become a human*
to run from consequences is irresponsible and pathetic.
so why consider these consequences without the consequences of the host?
so people do not get to choose how their socio-economic environment is affected if they have sex?
because remember
children are a socio-economic burden
So?
That's not exactly an insane position to take tbh
well
A) if it's a poor family who can't even really afford children then it's actually not good for the development of the child anyways
When we are talking about murder, it definitely is
B) socioeconomics affect every political and emotional choice people make.
Uhm. Have you heard of Africa?????
I am from Africa
I live here
People have like 10 children if they want
Battle of the Boers
@An Elbow yes but in africa children can actually be an economic benefit because diffrent child labor laws
so it's a false equvilance
Finance argument is invalid. It is lazy and disgusting