Message from @Benjamin Bucks
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In fact it’s a good outlook
You don’t need to call it science
You can come to whatever conclusion you like, butmy position is science based absolutely
And I proved it. Honestly I don't even see what's so optimistic
Its just realism
Proved it with the paragraphs of that psychologist saying that defining intelligence by only one metric is “egotistical?”
You have to look into the field of cognitive science. It will challenge everything you know about the world
Egotistical means self centered. So a culture that has different priorities is going to value things differently.
None of these are scientific concepts
Lol sure they are
You don't undesrtand what science is then
And I agree with most of what the psychologist was saying
Science is making judgements based on observations
It’s just not a rigorous science.
No it isn’t.
Yes it is
You have an arbitrarily narrow view of what science is
Science isn't only lab coats and chemicals
Not saying it is.
Science is a system of figuring out the material world around us
You can apply a scientific mindset to most things, but not everything. Anytime you get into philosphy for instance, science is useless because there's no experiement you can do to prove a concept.
Science is a meticulous, falsifiable and repeatable process. Otherwise it’s observational philosophy
And you also cant prove a negative
We don't disagree
hold on brb, busy. if myst ever comes back tell him whenever he wants to become a winner to hmu
Nice..
There is nothing falsifiable or repeatable about saying that we need to broaden our view of intelligence. That’s philosophy
lmao he's been here the whole time hiding
k brb
And I don’t mean that as a pejorative
I agree with you ben. Its the people who think the world can be found out with the scientific method that bother me. Science is very limited.
For instance, how fo you know science reflects reality? You need philosophy to answer that. You cant use science to prove science withoyt arguing in a circle
But like, thats part of the evolution. You get really deep into one particular worldview, and then the older you get the more refined and nuanced you get. You add more distinctions to things
So when I hear a 16 year old call himself a natsoc, that doesnt bother me. Hes 16. He doesnt know anything about anything yet. If he was like 44 and a natsoc id be concerned because then it might be too late. You might be stuck in that narrow worldview the rest of your life because you arent willing to be critical and skeptical of yourself. Its a tough thing to do. Ego gets in the way all the time
But that begs the question of why call your outlook scientific if there’s no science about it.
I wouldn't call it a scientific worldivew, I'd just call it a worldview...or a filter
I don’t call mine scientific because I don’t think it’s a matter of science
I like thinking in terms of systems. Something you'll hear more and more about its the term filter as a way to describe our outlook
Very cool and important video. Filters in Harmony.
I’ll watch it when I get home.