Message from @Ben Garrison

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2018-05-03 20:56:51 UTC  

No it isn’t.

2018-05-03 20:56:53 UTC  

Yes it is

2018-05-03 20:57:04 UTC  

You have an arbitrarily narrow view of what science is

2018-05-03 20:57:10 UTC  

Science isn't only lab coats and chemicals

2018-05-03 20:57:19 UTC  

Not saying it is.

2018-05-03 20:57:21 UTC  

Science is a system of figuring out the material world around us

2018-05-03 20:57:52 UTC  

You can apply a scientific mindset to most things, but not everything. Anytime you get into philosphy for instance, science is useless because there's no experiement you can do to prove a concept.

2018-05-03 20:57:58 UTC  

Science is a meticulous, falsifiable and repeatable process. Otherwise it’s observational philosophy

2018-05-03 20:57:58 UTC  

And you also cant prove a negative

2018-05-03 20:58:12 UTC  

We don't disagree

2018-05-03 20:58:31 UTC  

hold on brb, busy. if myst ever comes back tell him whenever he wants to become a winner to hmu

2018-05-03 20:58:54 UTC  

Nice..

2018-05-03 20:58:59 UTC  

There is nothing falsifiable or repeatable about saying that we need to broaden our view of intelligence. That’s philosophy

2018-05-03 20:59:07 UTC  

lmao he's been here the whole time hiding

2018-05-03 20:59:08 UTC  

k brb

2018-05-03 20:59:10 UTC  

And I don’t mean that as a pejorative

2018-05-03 21:33:04 UTC  

I agree with you ben. Its the people who think the world can be found out with the scientific method that bother me. Science is very limited.

2018-05-03 21:33:48 UTC  

For instance, how fo you know science reflects reality? You need philosophy to answer that. You cant use science to prove science withoyt arguing in a circle

2018-05-03 21:34:21 UTC  

But like, thats part of the evolution. You get really deep into one particular worldview, and then the older you get the more refined and nuanced you get. You add more distinctions to things

2018-05-03 21:35:57 UTC  

So when I hear a 16 year old call himself a natsoc, that doesnt bother me. Hes 16. He doesnt know anything about anything yet. If he was like 44 and a natsoc id be concerned because then it might be too late. You might be stuck in that narrow worldview the rest of your life because you arent willing to be critical and skeptical of yourself. Its a tough thing to do. Ego gets in the way all the time

2018-05-03 21:36:36 UTC  

But that begs the question of why call your outlook scientific if there’s no science about it.

2018-05-03 21:37:09 UTC  

I wouldn't call it a scientific worldivew, I'd just call it a worldview...or a filter

2018-05-03 21:37:15 UTC  

I don’t call mine scientific because I don’t think it’s a matter of science

2018-05-03 21:37:51 UTC  

I like thinking in terms of systems. Something you'll hear more and more about its the term filter as a way to describe our outlook

2018-05-03 21:38:26 UTC  

Very cool and important video. Filters in Harmony.

2018-05-03 21:40:05 UTC  

I’ll watch it when I get home.

2018-05-03 21:42:49 UTC  

Let me know if you like it. It might not be for you, but I found it really informative

2018-05-03 21:42:59 UTC  

But I love business and sheit

2018-05-03 21:43:30 UTC  

But the issue I take with what you’re saying, and I maybe misreading so correct me if I’m wrong, is that you’re telling Myst that by rejecting this filter of a broadened idea of intelligence that he’s rejecting science. You also referred to all of this as mainstream science, what science tells us, etc. And while I do in fact agree with the idea of an understanding of intelligence beyond the traditional analytical definition and that everyone has their talents etc. I don’t believe this to be a scientific idea derived from the scientific method

2018-05-03 21:50:04 UTC  

Okay. Good point my man. Ill give you that i see what youre saying.

2018-05-03 23:08:16 UTC  

hm

2018-05-03 23:08:27 UTC  

hello

2018-05-03 23:20:08 UTC  

yo

2018-05-03 23:21:16 UTC  

How's it going

2018-05-03 23:25:57 UTC  

Going good, Sixers bout to be on

2018-05-03 23:27:13 UTC  

Also having a good day for me, libtards pissed about Trump ending Korean War

2018-05-03 23:28:34 UTC  

We're in the golden age

2018-05-03 23:28:43 UTC  

Today was the best day ever, and tomorrow will be even better

2018-05-03 23:29:41 UTC  

Was a peace treaty signed?

2018-05-03 23:31:35 UTC  

I dont think so yet