Which, is exactly how I expected the conversation to go. And once again, I'm right.

I love winning

You have a problem with my "filter" on life which is fine. Everyone has their own filter

You get to choose your own filter

What makes a good filter is if it can

1.) Make you happy and
2.) predict future events with relative accuracy

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So I'm an optimist. Aboslutely. Because life is much better that way and generally it gives me a good predictor of how things are going to be

I don’t have a problem with you having that outlook, my only problem is trying to give it some sort of objective legitimacy by calling it science

In fact it’s a good outlook

You don’t need to call it science

You can come to whatever conclusion you like, butmy position is science based absolutely

And I proved it. Honestly I don't even see what's so optimistic

Its just realism

Proved it with the paragraphs of that psychologist saying that defining intelligence by only one metric is “egotistical?”

You have to look into the field of cognitive science. It will challenge everything you know about the world

Egotistical means self centered. So a culture that has different priorities is going to value things differently.

None of these are scientific concepts

Lol sure they are

You don't undesrtand what science is then

And I agree with most of what the psychologist was saying

Science is making judgements based on observations

It’s just not a rigorous science.

No it isn’t.

Yes it is

You have an arbitrarily narrow view of what science is

Science isn't only lab coats and chemicals

Not saying it is.

Science is a system of figuring out the material world around us

You can apply a scientific mindset to most things, but not everything. Anytime you get into philosphy for instance, science is useless because there's no experiement you can do to prove a concept.

Science is a meticulous, falsifiable and repeatable process. Otherwise it’s observational philosophy

And you also cant prove a negative

We don't disagree

hold on brb, busy. if myst ever comes back tell him whenever he wants to become a winner to hmu

Nice..

There is nothing falsifiable or repeatable about saying that we need to broaden our view of intelligence. That’s philosophy

lmao he's been here the whole time hiding

k brb

And I don’t mean that as a pejorative

I agree with you ben. Its the people who think the world can be found out with the scientific method that bother me. Science is very limited.

For instance, how fo you know science reflects reality? You need philosophy to answer that. You cant use science to prove science withoyt arguing in a circle

But like, thats part of the evolution. You get really deep into one particular worldview, and then the older you get the more refined and nuanced you get. You add more distinctions to things