same doctor maybe

I never denied that

and what was obama care

that was in my thesis earlier

what was obama care? the ACA?

you ask me a lot of questions

makes it hard to answer any of them comprehensively

and makes me be on the defense always

vaguest question I have ever heard

obama care was universal

why do the countries with universal healthcare supposedly work

no, it was not

obamacare was a complete failure

cost, quality of care, and efficiency of care

obamacare, the ACA, was a program made by Mitt Romney and adapted by Obama and agreed upon by senate and house republicans

it has been disappointing to many because of rising premiums

but has also covered millions of additional americans

so it's complicated

and needs work

yeah, so you agree it was a failure

no, I don't

I think it needs work

the dems passed it without reading it

I'm sure some dems did

but they deliberated on it for a long time

the lobbiests did, the congress didnt

and all of the socialized systems arent expensive, outside of taxes being outrageous, quality of care well thats down to doctors, and efficiency isnt cost it is how well you are treated for the cost

and that cost is too high

I meant efficiency for an average citizen to get care. obviously canada is an example of how it doesn't work efficiently, but canada is also often ranked around the us in terms of efficiency so it's not a great comparison for a shining example of socialized healthcare

well how about uuuuu Norway

high ass taxes

extreme some might say

just because of universal healthcare

healthcare costs in the US are more expensive than in norway

as of 2010

but for the average Norwegian, its high as shite

higher for americans tho

in comparison

yes

I earn $300 almost thirty of it gone to taxes, around 45% gone to taxes in norway

though less money