how is universal better?

cost, quality of care, and efficiency of care

quality of care how is it better under universal

ideally quality of care is the same, and the other two are improved, meaning those three things, cost, quality of care, and efficiency of care, are improved as a whole

because you don't have diff doctors right

alright how is universal more effective if you have the same doctor

cost

cost doesnt mean efficient

cost is different

no, it means cost

then why aren't they one stat

because they are diff things?

because last I checked when I was in England, Obama care was pretty trash

what is your argument @Alix

expensive

same doctor maybe

I never denied that

and what was obama care

that was in my thesis earlier

what was obama care? the ACA?

you ask me a lot of questions

makes it hard to answer any of them comprehensively

and makes me be on the defense always

vaguest question I have ever heard

obama care was universal

why do the countries with universal healthcare supposedly work

no, it was not

obamacare was a complete failure

cost, quality of care, and efficiency of care

obamacare, the ACA, was a program made by Mitt Romney and adapted by Obama and agreed upon by senate and house republicans

it has been disappointing to many because of rising premiums

but has also covered millions of additional americans

so it's complicated

and needs work

yeah, so you agree it was a failure

no, I don't

I think it needs work

the dems passed it without reading it

I'm sure some dems did

but they deliberated on it for a long time

the lobbiests did, the congress didnt