Message from @wahx
Discord ID: 499652869046403072
because last I checked when I was in England, Obama care was pretty trash
expensive
same doctor maybe
I never denied that
and what was obama care
that was in my thesis earlier
what was obama care? the ACA?
you ask me a lot of questions
makes it hard to answer any of them comprehensively
and makes me be on the defense always
vaguest question I have ever heard
obama care was universal
why do the countries with universal healthcare supposedly work
no, it was not
obamacare was a complete failure
cost, quality of care, and efficiency of care
obamacare, the ACA, was a program made by Mitt Romney and adapted by Obama and agreed upon by senate and house republicans
it has been disappointing to many because of rising premiums
but has also covered millions of additional americans
and needs work
yeah, so you agree it was a failure
no, I don't
I think it needs work
the dems passed it without reading it
I'm sure some dems did
but they deliberated on it for a long time
the lobbiests did, the congress didnt
and all of the socialized systems arent expensive, outside of taxes being outrageous, quality of care well thats down to doctors, and efficiency isnt cost it is how well you are treated for the cost
and that cost is too high
I meant efficiency for an average citizen to get care. obviously canada is an example of how it doesn't work efficiently, but canada is also often ranked around the us in terms of efficiency so it's not a great comparison for a shining example of socialized healthcare
well how about uuuuu Norway
high ass taxes
extreme some might say
just because of universal healthcare
healthcare costs in the US are more expensive than in norway
as of 2010
but for the average Norwegian, its high as shite
higher for americans tho
in comparison