The immigration numbers are going be met, regardless.

And it's not like we're losing out on anything by turning down immigration from the ass crack of the planet

And if you actually think banning all people of a certain religion from entering the USA I guess you are against the constitution?

The constitution doesn't address immigration, nor non-American citizens.

So you don't think rights are inalienable?

Some are, yes.

But religious freedom isn't one of them

Immigration is not an inalienable right.

You can, for example, believe whatever you want. I don't have to let you stand in a particular place to allow you to do so, however.

So you are against religious freedom, understood.

Oh, God no.

Perish the thought.

I'm simply against the conflation of foreign nationals and American citizens, and the mistaken belief that they're somehow afforded the rights and protections granted by the US Constitution, as well as the mistaken logic that immigration is somehow an inalienable right provided by such.

So you think that rights are given by the government

Not given, no.

Yes, given.

Codified in some cases.

Not given, though.

Yes given

That's the meaning of inalienable.

They're not given by the government.

If they where not given by the government they would be applied to everyone

How do you mean

And no.

Yet you only think American citizens deserve religious freedom, hence you think that it is THE GOVERNMENT who awards rights.

That's, uh, that's not what I said.

That is uh, exactly what you said.

Where in that did you read that only Americans deserve religious freedom?

The fact that you think the American constitution (which awards religious freedom) only applies to American citizens and the fact that you therefor think it's okay for the American government to not care about the religious freedom of non-Americans.

The Constitution DOES only apply to Americans.

Not really

I am not subject to, for example, Canadian code and laws, nor the laws of Zimbabwe, or China.

The same way that a Saudi is not subject to the US Constitution.

By principle it shouldn't.

How do you figure

Seeing as the rights awarded by the constitution are inalienable.

They're sovereign countries, not bound by our laws.

God given rights

Not government given.

Just because we think that doesn't mean that the Crown Prince of Saud believes the same to be true.

Or the PM of the UK