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He called for a complete and total shutdown of all Muslims entering the United States

That's not a ban of Muslims.

How isn't it?

He wanted to ban all muslims from entering the USA

Because that's not banning Muslims

It's temporarily shutting down immigration from target countries.

No, from all muslims

Not target countries.

In the same way that denying import of a specific model of car is not a ban of that car.

But it is....

Banning a group of people from entering the country is not the same as banning that group of people from the country.

There are millions upon millions already here.

Okay, then he just wanted to ban all muslims from entering the USA (which is what everybody means when they talk about his Muslim ban BTW).

I was never arguing he wanted to deport all muslims currently living in the USA.

That's what a ban of all Muslims is, which you kept on about.

Which, I mean, I can't exactly say it's a bad idea.

Jesus christ

Muslim ban is the name given to trumps immigration ban

That is just what people call it

The immigration numbers are going be met, regardless.

And it's not like we're losing out on anything by turning down immigration from the ass crack of the planet

And if you actually think banning all people of a certain religion from entering the USA I guess you are against the constitution?

The constitution doesn't address immigration, nor non-American citizens.

So you don't think rights are inalienable?

Some are, yes.

But religious freedom isn't one of them

Immigration is not an inalienable right.

You can, for example, believe whatever you want. I don't have to let you stand in a particular place to allow you to do so, however.

So you are against religious freedom, understood.

Oh, God no.

Perish the thought.

I'm simply against the conflation of foreign nationals and American citizens, and the mistaken belief that they're somehow afforded the rights and protections granted by the US Constitution, as well as the mistaken logic that immigration is somehow an inalienable right provided by such.

So you think that rights are given by the government

Not given, no.

Yes, given.

Codified in some cases.

Not given, though.

Yes given

That's the meaning of inalienable.

They're not given by the government.