In this way yes.

I think this is a very bad rephrasing of my argument though.

How so

How can that take place ONLY in America?

I'm saying that this thing of roberries ending with rapes of murders can apply only to America (as in, your study)

We don't know if these things take place in countries with gun restrictions

Most mugging don't involve guns, though.

And we certainly do.

They do, though it's not included in the study

In my city there are 1.494 muggins per year, and 137 rapes.

In the year 2015

And there are heavy gun restrictions.

But take my fiancee for example, to go back to the self defense thing. Even armed with pepper spray, she wouldn't have much of a chance against even a single dedicated actor that was larger than her.

Two would be almost a foregone conclusion.

This is unarmed men, by the way.

But how would you respond to what I said?

There are more then 10 times more muggings then rapes.

Her only response to such an event, with a satisfactory conclusion, would be immediate lethal force.

I'd say that sounds about right.

If it were to look up the statistics for violent crime here, they'd likely show a similar ratio.

Then most muggings don't go like what you describe.

Not most, no.

But most isn't the point.

DoJ statistics show that in all cases except immediate, violent resistance, the victim is likely to be subject to escalation by the hostile actor.

That was what you said.

In all cases it's likely.

When your end state is as critical a potential case as described, you don't go with "Eh nothing bad will happen, probably"

I would say rape is less bad then murder.

So I would prefer no use of lethal force.

You'd rather a woman be raped than kill her attacker?

That's not murder anyway.

I would yes

Wow, you're a special brand of fucked-up, you degenerate-ass mongoloid.

Epic

Top 10 most epic rages on discord.

Nah, it's just kind of stunning to hear someone come out and say that a woman shouldn't be able to defend herself against a rapist

Not with lethal force preferably.

But that's basically the only way to stop a human being quickly enough to prevent something like that.

#rapistlivesmatter

This is the same reason that hostage rescue teams don't try to run in and spray people with OC.

Because pepper spray and less lethal systems do not stop targets.