Message from @bandit
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A death I'm assuming?
A man comes up to a woman, asks her if her dog bites. She says no. He pulls a knife. Demands her purse. She complies. That's twice now.
The first capitulation was opening a dialogue.
That's only a robbery
I'm not finished.
Opening of a dialogue isn't bad
It can be. But that's a separate discussion.
She's complied now. The predator knows he has a compliant victim. She's already done exactly what he told her.
"Okay, bitch, now, step over here."
Then it's a rape.
Then it's a murder.
Is the dog okay?
But this can also apply only to America.
Can it now
Mugging, rape, and murder only take place in America?
In this way yes.
I think this is a very bad rephrasing of my argument though.
How so
How can that take place ONLY in America?
I'm saying that this thing of roberries ending with rapes of murders can apply only to America (as in, your study)
Most mugging don't involve guns, though.
And we certainly do.
They do, though it's not included in the study
In my city there are 1.494 muggins per year, and 137 rapes.
In the year 2015
And there are heavy gun restrictions.
But take my fiancee for example, to go back to the self defense thing. Even armed with pepper spray, she wouldn't have much of a chance against even a single dedicated actor that was larger than her.
Two would be almost a foregone conclusion.
This is unarmed men, by the way.
But how would you respond to what I said?
There are more then 10 times more muggings then rapes.
Her only response to such an event, with a satisfactory conclusion, would be immediate lethal force.
I'd say that sounds about right.
If it were to look up the statistics for violent crime here, they'd likely show a similar ratio.
Then most muggings don't go like what you describe.
Not most, no.
But most isn't the point.
DoJ statistics show that in all cases except immediate, violent resistance, the victim is likely to be subject to escalation by the hostile actor.
That was what you said.
In all cases it's likely.