anymore

nor did the USSR gain an influence

the goals were met by the paris accords

That's irrelevant

We lost a land war to north vietnam

not really that was the goal

land war

but in the end

not really, more of a win

We lost the war

I don't see how turning Vietnam into a more capitalist country

Removing and stopping the soviet influence

And smacking them in battles

was a loss

but

o k

And the collapse of socialism globally was inevitable, Vietnam ceasing to be socialist. does not mean the war was a victory

well it was as that was the MAIN goal

aside from removing soviet influence

We won the cold war

But that is separate strategically

Yeah I mean Vietnam

We lost in Vietnam, what happened internally afterwards is separate.

soviet influence was stopped

not a loss

We lost to the Northern Vietnamese

They took control

It's ok that we lost

It's the fact that you didn't lose

Wrong

the war on christmas

or in trumpism @Donaldus Triumphus

Trumpism you say?

yes

I'm an illegal immigrant

Nice

Well, so far it's working lmao

@Mkz o shit

crossing the border shouldn't be a crime