as the goals were matched by the paris accords

The north took control

War isn't won by casualties

Yeah but the soviet union's influence wasn't there anymore

nor is it socialist

If that was true you could say the Germans won in the east

anymore

the whole goal was to stop the soviet influence

which was stopped

The goal was to contain communism

And we failed to beat the commies

dude

They took control

Vietnam isn't socialist

anymore

nor did the USSR gain an influence

the goals were met by the paris accords

That's irrelevant

We lost a land war to north vietnam

not really that was the goal

land war

but in the end

not really, more of a win

We lost the war

I don't see how turning Vietnam into a more capitalist country

Removing and stopping the soviet influence

And smacking them in battles

was a loss

but

o k

And the collapse of socialism globally was inevitable, Vietnam ceasing to be socialist. does not mean the war was a victory

well it was as that was the MAIN goal

aside from removing soviet influence

We won the cold war

But that is separate strategically

Yeah I mean Vietnam

We lost in Vietnam, what happened internally afterwards is separate.

soviet influence was stopped

not a loss

We lost to the Northern Vietnamese

They took control