Message from @Obungus
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Because Vietnam has a free'ish economic freedom score
so vietnam was really a win
especailly in K/D
that was a slaughter lmao
Proof of Vietnam in <#441728840025374731>
As I was saying for no "true communist " country has been around as there has never been a stateless, moneyless, nationless community without a private sector where the workers own the means of production collectively
Our enemies won
Our allies lost
We left with the South in less control then when we came in
It was a loss
But it wasn't
as the goals were matched by the paris accords
The north took control
War isn't won by casualties
Yeah but the soviet union's influence wasn't there anymore
nor is it socialist
If that was true you could say the Germans won in the east
anymore
the whole goal was to stop the soviet influence
which was stopped
And we failed to beat the commies
dude
They took control
Vietnam isn't socialist
anymore
nor did the USSR gain an influence
the goals were met by the paris accords
That's irrelevant
We lost a land war to north vietnam
not really that was the goal
land war
but in the end
not really, more of a win
We lost the war
I don't see how turning Vietnam into a more capitalist country
Removing and stopping the soviet influence
And smacking them in battles
was a loss
but
o k