Message from @Obungus

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2018-11-24 17:45:04 UTC  

Because Vietnam has a free'ish economic freedom score

2018-11-24 17:45:07 UTC  

so vietnam was really a win

2018-11-24 17:45:10 UTC  

especailly in K/D

2018-11-24 17:45:13 UTC  

that was a slaughter lmao

2018-11-24 17:45:25 UTC  

Proof of Vietnam in <#441728840025374731>

2018-11-24 17:47:44 UTC  

As I was saying for no "true communist " country has been around as there has never been a stateless, moneyless, nationless community without a private sector where the workers own the means of production collectively

2018-11-24 18:02:10 UTC  

Our enemies won

2018-11-24 18:02:22 UTC  

Our allies lost

2018-11-24 18:02:37 UTC  

We left with the South in less control then when we came in

2018-11-24 18:02:40 UTC  

It was a loss

2018-11-24 18:04:08 UTC  

But it wasn't

2018-11-24 18:04:13 UTC  

as the goals were matched by the paris accords

2018-11-24 18:04:56 UTC  

The north took control

2018-11-24 18:05:03 UTC  

War isn't won by casualties

2018-11-24 18:05:12 UTC  

Yeah but the soviet union's influence wasn't there anymore

2018-11-24 18:05:16 UTC  

nor is it socialist

2018-11-24 18:05:16 UTC  

If that was true you could say the Germans won in the east

2018-11-24 18:05:17 UTC  

anymore

2018-11-24 18:05:28 UTC  

the whole goal was to stop the soviet influence

2018-11-24 18:05:30 UTC  

which was stopped

2018-11-24 18:05:52 UTC  

The goal was to contain communism

2018-11-24 18:06:00 UTC  

And we failed to beat the commies

2018-11-24 18:06:08 UTC  

dude

2018-11-24 18:06:08 UTC  

They took control

2018-11-24 18:06:10 UTC  

Vietnam isn't socialist

2018-11-24 18:06:12 UTC  

anymore

2018-11-24 18:06:21 UTC  

nor did the USSR gain an influence

2018-11-24 18:06:28 UTC  

the goals were met by the paris accords

2018-11-24 18:06:30 UTC  

That's irrelevant

2018-11-24 18:06:38 UTC  

We lost a land war to north vietnam

2018-11-24 18:06:40 UTC  

not really that was the goal

2018-11-24 18:06:42 UTC  

land war

2018-11-24 18:06:44 UTC  

but in the end

2018-11-24 18:06:46 UTC  

not really, more of a win

2018-11-24 18:06:52 UTC  

We lost the war

2018-11-24 18:07:05 UTC  

I don't see how turning Vietnam into a more capitalist country

2018-11-24 18:07:13 UTC  

Removing and stopping the soviet influence

2018-11-24 18:07:16 UTC  

And smacking them in battles

2018-11-24 18:07:17 UTC  

was a loss

2018-11-24 18:07:18 UTC  

but

2018-11-24 18:07:21 UTC  

o k