Message from @Anon365

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2018-12-23 20:18:39 UTC  

I was explaining that it is much more important to keep illegal entrants out than to deport visa overstays

2018-12-23 20:18:44 UTC  

Ok

2018-12-23 20:18:56 UTC  

and illegal entrants almost always enter by land or sea

2018-12-23 20:19:00 UTC  

rarely by air

2018-12-23 20:19:11 UTC  

are we done now, do you get it

2018-12-23 20:19:19 UTC  

40% of migrants enter by air

2018-12-23 20:19:25 UTC  

jesus christ

2018-12-23 20:24:04 UTC  

Later on, it says "40% might be too low"

2018-12-23 20:24:20 UTC  

On the politifact page

2018-12-23 20:24:46 UTC  

you are very stubborn and retarded which is a bad combination, but do you want to hear about the other ways that you're wrong?

2018-12-23 20:25:02 UTC  

Ok

2018-12-23 20:27:01 UTC  

Illegal immigrant statistics only attempt to measure the number of illegals in the country. Your figures that say illegal immigration is declining only capture this figure, and do not tell you about the increased border crossings *in both directions*

2018-12-23 20:27:46 UTC  

illegal immigrants follow a pattern of crossing back and forth regularly, making our border with Mexico extremely porous and vulnerable to criminal activity

2018-12-23 20:29:45 UTC  

Further, illegal immigration data is by its nature nebulous, which means that every interpretation of that spotty data has had its holes filled in by guesswork, and in every case by bias or wishful thinking as well.

2018-12-23 20:30:49 UTC  

By these two forces combined, illegal immigration statistics from any source are so unreliable that it is foolish to base any theory or policy off of them

2018-12-23 20:31:10 UTC  

If there is a certain trend in the data, then it means its based on some accuracy

2018-12-23 20:31:30 UTC  

that is wrong and betrays your complete misunderstanding of data error

2018-12-23 20:32:11 UTC  

any change that is within the margin of error must not be considered a trend

2018-12-23 20:32:16 UTC  

Wouldn’t the numbers be jumping up and down if it was completly wrong?

2018-12-23 20:32:21 UTC  

no.

2018-12-23 20:32:34 UTC  

There wouldnt be a trend

2018-12-23 20:32:39 UTC  

data collection can be precise and innaccurate

2018-12-23 20:33:11 UTC  

you would benefit from a formal stats course

2018-12-23 20:33:37 UTC  

I'm sure you would find it interesting to learn how your magic numbers come to be

2018-12-23 20:36:00 UTC  

The data has a 90% confidence interval

2018-12-23 20:36:44 UTC  

That's low

2018-12-23 20:36:59 UTC  

True

2018-12-23 20:37:15 UTC  

and it is still made using methods that tell you *nothing* about border crossing numbers

2018-12-23 20:37:17 UTC  

But not enough that it dismisses the idea of it declining

2018-12-23 20:38:13 UTC  

in depth studies all show that migrants travel back and forth regularly, meaning the yearly border crossings are many times what the illegal resident numbers suggest

2018-12-23 20:39:26 UTC  

and combined with their low confidence there is really not much anyone can use these data interpretations for, except disinformation campaigns, which is exactly what everyone does

2018-12-23 20:39:46 UTC  

it is a shitshow!

2018-12-23 20:40:11 UTC  

So are the statistics about illegals exaggerated?

2018-12-23 20:40:15 UTC  

But its measured the same way every year

2018-12-23 20:40:24 UTC  

yeah. poorly.

2018-12-23 20:40:27 UTC  

Its based on some accuracy

2018-12-23 20:40:37 UTC  

yeah. low accuracy.

2018-12-23 20:41:07 UTC  

I have explained why the data and its interpretations are worthless now

2018-12-23 20:41:11 UTC  

The numbers might be a bit off, but the declining trend is true

2018-12-23 20:41:14 UTC  

please refer to the above

2018-12-23 20:41:28 UTC  

and also enroll in a stats course